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  1. #591
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    BarretOblivion's Avatar
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    Tamamo Cat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Well that would be why he's only 98%, yeah?
    Whooosh. That's the sound of the point going right over your head.
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  2. #592
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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    Whooosh. That's the sound of the point going right over your head.
    To his credit, he wrote it when i was still editing this post.
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  3. #593
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    Sawamura's Avatar
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    Rygart Sawamura
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    Let´s ask SE give back
    tank enmity management vs dps and healer and enmity combo rotation and dps combo rotation!

    for healer give them back Cleric stance.

    Then tank and healer choose between party life or dps!
    (0)

    Make no mistake. I'm not you alliances. I'm here cause I just do what I felt is right thing to do.

  4. #594
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    Ekimmak's Avatar
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sawamura View Post
    Let´s ask SE give back
    tank enmity management vs dps and healer and enmity combo rotation and dps combo rotation!

    for healer give them back Cleric stance.

    Then tank and healer choose between party life or dps!
    And then the community will shove DPS meta back down our throats, and we'll feel awful when we can't do anything to stop an idiot DPS that doesn't know what enmity management is.
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  5. #595
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    Lavitz Orlandeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    And then the community will shove DPS meta back down our throats, and we'll feel awful when we can't do anything to stop an idiot DPS that doesn't know what enmity management is.
    Treat them like an extra CD and go about your day after they get turned to mush.
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  6. #596
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    Or just increase tanks damage.
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  7. #597
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    Treat them like an extra CD and go about your day after they get turned to mush.
    Amusing, but sadly non-optimal.
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  8. #598
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Amusing, but sadly non-optimal.
    It's optimal in maximizing my amusement
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  9. #599
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Amusing, but sadly non-optimal.
    I mean yeah but I keep seeing people mess up other things in content but that is just waved off anyway. In "Content that matters" I would think people would be Optimal about it(Now them actually liking the return of enmity is another thing).

    But if DPS don't want to use enmity management they would get back, they're basically just like the DPS that are prone to run with a stack marker; a 2400 MP cost just waiting to happen.

    That's not going to happen though, us getting Enmity back.
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    Last edited by MerlinCross; 11-15-2019 at 02:01 PM.

  10. #600
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    And then the community will shove DPS meta back down our throats, and we'll feel awful when we can't do anything to stop an idiot DPS that doesn't know what enmity management is.
    Personally, I think enmity management should be the tank sole responsibility if we give them back an enmity combo (And remove the passive enmity of stances). This way, you'd have the same decision making as healer should have, wether you use your GCD to do as much DPS as possible risking someone taking a bad hit that can be lethal, or, sacrifice some of your DPS to make sure you comfortably do your primary job.

    And, if we were in that situation, then I'd agree completely that a tank doing 100% DPS combo should do at least the same damage as a 100% DPS healer, or even higher.

    Or, if they don't get an enmity combo back, having a short CD role action that converts a portion of your damage for increased enmity for the next 10s. Something like how Cleric Stance was converted from a proper "stance" to a short time buff back in SB...but still with a damage penalty. And you'd have to pinpoint how the exact times you'd be forced to use that CD to make sure you don't lose aggro while doing your top DPS.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 11-15-2019 at 07:04 PM.

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