Ishgardian Restoration world visit.

[Jojoya]

Like these negative "incentives" ever work. Big result of DC reshuffling was people leaving 6/8 dead Crystal to go back to Aether/Primal making it more uneven. Even though the plan was to even out the numbers.

You're right, negative incentives never work.

Neither do positive ones. Players always expect someone else to change so they don't have to be inconvenienced.

This change won't improve things on Balmung or Mateus. It will improve things on Brynhildr, Coeurl, Diablos, Goblin, Malboro and Zalera. I'd say it's an overall improvement with 6 out of 8 worlds benefitting. We're about 15 minutes away from our next FATE and the Firmament is filling up nicely - but at least it's Coeurl players this time and not a horde of Wanderers.

[JamesF]

You're right, negative incentives never work.

Neither do positive ones. Players always expect someone else to change so they don't have to be inconvenienced.

This change won't improve things on Balmung or Mateus. It will improve things on Brynhildr, Coeurl, Diablos, Goblin, Malboro and Zalera. I'd say it's an overall improvement with 6 out of 8 worlds benefitting. We're about 15 minutes away from our next FATE and the Firmament is filling up nicely - but at least it's Coeurl players this time and not a horde of Wanderers.

Are you sure things on low pop servers are going to improve? In my world, which is a new EU world, bar is progressing about 2% per hour since they lifted world visit and people from high pop servers had to leave because they were out of mats. We are still on the 2nd bar. At this rate, I think it will take about 2 weeks to complete next progress bar.

[Chrisnetika]

Are you sure things on low pop servers are going to improve? In my world, which is a new EU world, bar is progressing about 2% per hour since they lifted world visit and people from high pop servers had to leave because they were out of mats. We are still on the 2nd bar. At this rate, I think it will take about 2 weeks to complete next progress bar.

If it gets done it gets done, you still able to get scrips so what the problem if it goes slow? If this is about possible ishgard housing, your on a new world that just got housing opened recently it couldn't be that dire there already for need to rush out new housing.
These is no bonus to what servers finish first and everyone will be able to participate on your world.

[JamesF]

If it gets done it gets done, you still able to get scrips so what the problem if it goes slow? If this is about possible ishgard housing, your on a new world that just got housing opened recently it couldn't be that dire there already for need to rush out new housing.
These is no bonus to what servers finish first and everyone will be able to participate on your world.

It's not about finishing first, it's about having to put 4-5 times the work people from high pop servers do. I did 30k scrips in 2 days and got all the stuff I need, but I'm gonna stop for now. I would be okay with this choice if it actually was scaled to server population.
Moreover, I already wrote it some post ago, this morning there wasn't congestion for a fate (at least on EU servers it's like this) and I'm pretty sure everywhere it was gonna stop after all the afk-ers would have got everything they needed. I know we will get housing "eventually", but spamming 200+ collectables per day to see such a small improvement on the progress bar is not encouraging imo.
And yeah, we already had to wait months to get FC housing and be able to level subs so already were kinda penalized for that (but it was kinda obvious it was gonna happen). I'm ok with this system, as long as they scale things down on servers pop (or percentage of crafters/gatherers), since considering how much we took for the first fate yesterday with the helping wanderers (about 10 minutes) I'm seriously worried we won't be able to finish the fates without them.

[Jojoya]

Are you sure things on low pop servers are going to improve? In my world, which is a new EU world, bar is progressing about 2% per hour since they lifted world visit and people from high pop servers had to leave because they were out of mats. We are still on the 2nd bar. At this rate, I think it will take about 2 weeks to complete next progress bar.

This is not something intended to be completed overnight (or even in 2 weeks). It's content that's supposed to last us the majority of the expansion. There's no deadline that has to be met on this. There are no new rewards being unlocked with the new stages at this point. Being behind is not an issue.

Once things calm down from the normal release of new content panic, SE will be better able to evaluate what worlds if any might need the help from cross world players to meet whatever internal expectations they have for world progress.

I don't expect Wanderers to be locked out of the Firmament permanently, just until the content has been out long enough to give all players a reasonable chance to participate on their home worlds.

[Noitems]

Are you sure things on low pop servers are going to improve? In my world, which is a new EU world, bar is progressing about 2% per hour since they lifted world visit and people from high pop servers had to leave because they were out of mats. We are still on the 2nd bar. At this rate, I think it will take about 2 weeks to complete next progress bar.

My guess is there will be a point where the CW stop actually adding more the map and instead are just a normal fate which you can earn scrips/exp.

They said the content itself is going to go on through 5.X so unless they plan to make multiple editions all the way to Feb (when 5.2 launches) I'm sure the actual progress will stop at a certain point physically and everyone will be on the same foot going forward.

Even then I'm sure they'll look at the efforts (as Yoshi-P mentioned the smaller pop's were in consideration from his first post) and do some tweaking to allow them to finish fine, just not as quick as the ones who are going full ham like the big pops.