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  1. #261
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    UnstablePersonality's Avatar
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    Athena Nightreaper
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowave View Post
    You crybabies better be happy now
    They're crybabies for wanting something to not be abused for malicious intent and work properly? Lol great attitude.
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  2. #262
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    MADbear's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Artorias Etnia
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    Tonberry
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    imagine the salt if ishgard housing are true, when high pop world finish first and smaller world lag behind--let's say 1 month at best?
    so much ppl willing give for "muh own pace", alright i guess.
    tho i prefer getting it down fast than 1000 scripts per stage, 3rd stage are already take much longer to fill.
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  3. #263
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowave View Post
    You crybabies better be happy now
    I fail to see how complaining over a legitimate issue makes people crybabies unless you're just upset that you can't server hop for easy scrips anymore.

    The scrip reward is just a drop in the bucket if you already have a DoH class maxed along with BTN/MIN.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 11-14-2019 at 07:27 PM.

  4. #264
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by swiss_Momo View Post
    awww, fun's over I guess...
    Sucks for the smaller servers who will now start to fall behind quickly, and I fully expect that the higher population servers will get congested anyway for the fate, even if not an hour in advance.

    adding instances definitely would've been the better solution, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some spaghetti code would cause each instance to have it's own progress bar
    The vast majority of wanderers from higher pop servers weren't contributing to the small pop servers in the first place. Most of them were not crafting at all. They were AFK, dancing, putting rude comments in Shout, etc. They'd be standing anywhere but near Potkin - which is where contributions are made. The only thing they were there for was their free 500 scrip (and maybe some XP) from the FATE before they moved to the next world to wait for another 500 free scrip.

    It's not to say none of the wanderers were contributing. A few did, but their contributions were probably only 2-3% of the total contributions at best.

    The small population servers will be fine. Things don't have to be completed at the same rate as on the big servers. This is also something that SE can choose to change in the future if they feel the small pop worlds are falling too far behind. For now, everyone will have a better chance to enjoy the content on their own world and see the progress their own world is capable of making without assistance.

    Quote Originally Posted by MADbear View Post
    imagine the salt if ishgard housing are true, when high pop world finish first and smaller world lag behind--let's say 1 month at best?
    so much ppl willing give for "muh own pace", alright i guess.
    tho i prefer getting it down fast than 1000 scripts per stage, 3rd stage are already take much longer to fill.
    Why would there be salt?

    We've got a lot of smalls still available right now. I've no doubt they'll fill when the private purchase moratorium is lifted but there probably will only be a handful of players who want a house badly that will still be lacking one.

    If players on the small pop worlds are that desperate for more housing, they have that much more incentive to contribute to the effort required to get it. If they don't get it, most of them can look at their lack of contribution for once and say "I didn't get what I want when I wanted it because I didn't help to make it happen."
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 11-14-2019 at 07:33 PM.

  5. #265
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    Squintina's Avatar
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MADbear View Post
    imagine the salt if ishgard housing are true, when high pop world finish first and smaller world lag behind--let's say 1 month at best?
    so much ppl willing give for "muh own pace", alright i guess.
    tho i prefer getting it down fast than 1000 scripts per stage, 3rd stage are already take much longer to fill.
    Getting it done faster would imply wanderers were helping with the contribution, not just the fate - which most weren't. People who show up to AFK for a fate don't help any world go faster. Actually, by locking out people who did want to contribute, and making people who were contributing but ran out of mats afraid of leaving to go get more mats if it was in the last 1 hour before the fate pop even though extra contributions do roll over to the next stage, they were making them go slower.
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  6. #266
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    Rhus's Avatar
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowave View Post
    You crybabies better be happy now
    Not a crybaby as I’ve not been here posting about it much but yes I am overjoyed. I might actually get in and not have to camp in the firmamnent an hr before the fate to ensure I get in. The supplies might actually spawn on people’s screens now so thy too can take part. Last night I seen people come from a server that just had their fate to mine, then leave mine to go to Cerberus as it was due in over an hr. was turning into a fate train with people shouting they’re too lazy to even go to the board to check timer, can someone tell them how long left...
    so clearly they’re not helping.
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  7. #267
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Couldn't you just delayed this for 2 weeks or maybe delayed the ultimate for 2 weeks after this?

    The stress on the servers is a bit crazy now. And we've had several lag spikes that wiped us in Ultimate and makes it really annoying when we were trying to learn a specific mechanic there.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  8. #268
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by MADbear View Post
    imagine the salt if ishgard housing are true, when high pop world finish first and smaller world lag behind--let's say 1 month at best?
    I really doubt that's how it's going to work though... We have a playable area that can only be expanded via updates, a Housing Ward version of the Firmament is likely going to be delivered in an update as well... The progress on the reconstruction seems to me like its designed to be completed well in advance of the update that expands the system, just look at the playable area we currently have and ask yourself how much more can be build in it with this system? There isn't even two weeks worth of content here IMO, even the slowest servers are going to hit the end point long before the next patch adds more.

    And that's to say nothing of the fact that Wanderer's really aren't contributing a whole lot anyway... They show up for the FATE and AFK, very few of them are actually contributing to the stockpiling effort. Abusing the World Visit feature for the FATE also works both ways; Players on small servers are going to other servers to participate in their FATE, go figure while they're doing that they absolutely are not contributing to their own servers stockpile. Simply put, World Visit was doing more harm than good with this.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 11-14-2019 at 07:27 PM.

  9. #269
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    EZ5902's Avatar
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    Ruby Wesson
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Thank you so much.

    As for the low crafter count on new worlds, with the silly amounts of exp it gives, those will shoot up, no?
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  10. #270
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ5902 View Post
    Thank you so much.

    As for the low crafter count on new worlds, with the silly amounts of exp it gives, those will shoot up, no?
    Considering how many people seem wholly unwilling to get scrips through any means other then the FATEs, I'm leaning towards "no".

    Crafting/gathering have always just been a "do or don't" thing in MMOs from what I've experienced, where a lot of people will simply not bother no matter how easy they make it.

    I've also noticed that most of the players who use DoH/L bots are almost never not using them which suggests they're almost disinterested as those who don't bother at all.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 11-14-2019 at 07:39 PM.

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