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    Player orcryst's Avatar
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    Orcryst Gabriev
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    this downtime has been urking me in a very specific place... the vitality (lols, gotcha!)
    i'm itching to get back on and strike 50 to see where my hp lies finally at cap!

    btw, the reason my hp was so much higher then whisps was this handy article i learned about food...
    you see, every food has 2 primary status's that it works off. in my case, meat dishes are an attack/hp food, and it works on strenth and fire.

    its a lvl 40 food. so i needed to lower my strenth down to base 70, and lower my base fire down to 54 to make it "divine" thus raising my effect. also, the kabob's you mentioned are a lower level food so the bonus you'd get from those would have to be closer to your stats, i reccomend the lvl 40 shepard's pie unless you wanna lower your strenth down to 40.

    anyways, thats how its done, theres a very good post on the subject at a URL i've forgotten as my laptop isnt charged and it was on there >.<
    but if you search for food effects FFXIV you should find the one i'm talking about. ciao! (back to dissidia... gotta grind the original storymode so i can level my onion knight... i shoulda kept my old saved game on there >.>)
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    Its: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...1256&tag=25040

    The way food works right now is about the dumbest thing i've ever seen designed. Basically punishes you the higher level stats you have. It'll get changed....eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    The way food works right now is about the dumbest thing i've ever seen designed. Basically punishes you the higher level stats you have. It'll get changed....eventually.

    Hey Rad, i know this seems stupid at first but the food system makes perfect sense. The developers of the game designed it so that people would have a well rounded character, not an over STR stated MRD that does devastating DPS.

    Proof:

    FFXIV is not your average MMORPG, Obviously, it is a new breed of MMO. It was designed to be different than WoW and EQII and what ever other MMO you want to attempt to compare it to.

    All the way back, BEFORE Beta, the developers of the game talked about building the game to be different when they announced the classes. The key point here was the ability to change class just by switching weapons. From this one single idea flowed FFXIV.

    People then complained about stat allotment and what not so the developers let out this tad bit of information.

    "Q. I allocated all of my bonus points to STR, but it did not increase my damage output nearly as much as I had hoped. Why?
    A. Each attribute has an upper limit, or "cap," that rises whenever a character's class rank goes up. Therefore, even if a player allots all of his or her bonus points to a single attribute such as STR, it is not the case that this will yield overly dramatic results. Distributing bonus points across several attributes rather than concentrating on a single one will result in a much more well-balanced character.

    The bonuses you gain from food are just FURTHER proof that the game was designed for everyone to build a balanced character who could play the role they need to.

    another example, in the opening movie with the 3 people at the table getting leves, the hume is clearly wielding a sword and when he teles he is using a bow.

    The thing is, and I AM NOT TALKING TO YOU RAD but you have me ranting now, lol. The thing is SOOO many people are ready to talk about how horrible the game is and that the game needs all this that and the other but the truth is, they just don't quite understand the game in it's entirety.

    I'll stop there because i could go on forever ;-)
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    Last edited by Kaisersose; 03-24-2011 at 09:07 AM.

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    Yeah I know where you're coming from, I just personally like min/maxing my class. Like say if you focus on being the best MRD possible, you can allocate your stats that way, even if it means you'll be terrible at anything else. Most people have a preference on what they enjoy playing and this game seems to focus too much on play everything, even if it's something you don't enjoy playing, know what I mean?

    The problem with food is you won't even be close to the cap in STR if you want to eat the hp/attack food for the best effect, which doesn't make any sense...iirc isn't the best meat STR cap 70? That's way below any cap at 50. Even distributing points evenly you can get well above that on every stat (this is assuming when stats will eventually make a noticeable difference).
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    Food cap can be by attributes or elements. If you can't fit your attributes to it then go and fit your elemental affinity.
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    If you want the optimal Divine message, they both need to be at the correct stat range.
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    finally pinged 50 >< only took me like a million years lol i should quit my job so i can play more XD
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    Radaghast:

    food effects in this game were meant to be a balancing act, not an overpowering need like in XI.
    think of it this way... your a mrd with 174 str, good for you! now what, you wanna hit even harder? nah, your attack stat is presumably capped at 174 :P why would you need to hit harder? why not try balancing out by putting your dex to a certain level, and getting an accurasy food? or balancing your vit out, and getting a vitality food?

    see what i'm getting at? its not about stacking all your eggs in one basket, but balancing out your character in an more affective manner. if your attack is already amazing, then use food to optimize a weakspot like your hp, or defence, or accurasy, so that attack doesnt get you slaughtered.

    for a better example take me for instance, who, though i'm a tank, plays exactly like you. i ahve 174 vitality. but used to hit average to below average while tanking. low and behold, lowering my strenth to 70 actually RAISED my attack dmg from when it was at 120! i actually find i hit just as hard if not more powerfully then i did when i had 120 strenth, but it allowed me to raise my HP to an unholy level, while also maintaining reasonable dps

    you could do the same thing by balancing your dex. but the other thing your missing is a 70 stat is only the limit on meat cause its a lvl40 food :P if they had a lvl50 food, you could have mid 80's. which is more respectable, and on top of that you'd have even more hp and attack from it then the 40 food. all i'm saying is that stacking the one aspect might not be the best way to achieve max dps.
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    Player orcryst's Avatar
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    Orcryst Gabriev
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    oh yeah. the original reason i came here again. just another update.

    when i dinged 50. i broke 2800hp ^_^ (i cant remember exactly, but its liek 2872 or something...)

    and if you read the patch notes, you marauders will he happy to know that you actually get a 10% bonus to accurasy, and hp when in a full party of 8 now! which means you'll have 10% MORE hp!

    also meaning, i'm about to break 3k hp wide open
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    Ding rank 48. Ding Silver Tricorne (just need it synthed). Ding solo'd Old Six Arms without much trouble at all.
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