Ishgardian Restoration world visit.

[Rynn21]

That's worse that he KNEW about it being a possible problem. It doesn't matter if another world has less crafters/gatherers. The FATE is easy to finish and has ZERO to do with actually participating in the initial steps that takes hours and hours to finish.

[Hacchan]

They can't really lock or disable world visit to reasons stated; craft/gath density fluctuate heavily between servers and it's way too early into the content to take a drastic action as they need to see how the activity get to once the hype have subsided and players that came in rushing got their items and leave the content, leaving behind those leveling doh/dol, getting more scrip item or actively working on progressing.

One solution to avoid any future issue would be to implement an Effort Participation threshold and only allow players to participate in the event if they delivered at least a certain number of items (example 100 or 200 items sound fairly reasonable and easy to attain), that would drastically limit the leeching from inactive players to jump to other world when the event is up as they wouldn't have participated in the stockpile effort and allowing active players to be able to attend the event. It wouldn't prevent players from others world to visit and do the deliveries but it would kneecap attempt a lot as they'd have to farm across multiple world which would be time consuming to do so.

But in the meantime, deal with it as it's bound to calm down by next week or shortly later.

[Fenril7]

PISSED I CANT GET IN MY OWN SERVER AND 1/2 HOUR BEFORE THE FATE IS UP.

HEADS SHOULD ROLL FOR THIS BIG CLUSTER OF A MESS!!!

QUOTE:

We understand that being unable to participate in the Ishgardian Restoration on your own World can be very stressful. But please rest assured that we are preparing emergency measures that we can put into action should the situation deteriorate, at which time an announcement will be made. In the meantime, we ask for your patience and understanding as we work to improve your experience with this content.


PS, You know since I can't get scrips from GATHERING, this is the only way I can keep up!!!!

[Deox]

The biggest issue for me is the things I need to click to even do the event are not appearing on screen. Spending 4+ hours gathering and crafting, being in the place on time, and not even being able to do the event feels really bad.

[Shadow018]

But in the meantime, deal with it as it's bound to calm down by next week or shortly later.

You know that this means "Deal with being locked out of content on your own server"? That should never happen! Basically same with the hunts, I had times where I couldn't go into a zone to do quests because there was a hunt target there.

[John_Milter]

Its not practical to accurately say how many crafters and gatherers a world has, some people have them leveled up but may not actually use them. no clue how they are gonna fix this beside a server lockout

What if the FATES happened much more often? People would not be afraid to miss them out and wouldn't have much reason to world hop.

Instead of 8 hours, why not every hour? Diminish the exp and scrips a bit... Wouldn't it work?

i actually think this is a pretty good idea, the biggest reason most of my friends were going to other worlds was because they missed theirs because of work or just, not being able to play the game when the fate was on their server so they had to hop if they wanted to make it. 8 hours is huge, basicaly means it only happens 3 times a day, and practically guaranteeing 2 of those 8 times are gonna be either when people are working, or when people need to sleep.

[Nalien]

A friend just made a very good point; The fact that we can World Visit actually takes away from smaller servers as well, rather than simply being a boon to them. Crafters from smaller servers are just as able and likely to visit other servers when its time for their Concerted Works as the reverse, and while they're there waiting they're either contributing to that server, or simply AFK. Either way they're not contributing to their home server at all during that time, then they hop to a different server again and continue not contributing to their home server... So rather than speeding things up for smaller servers, it's more likely slowing them down while the other servers work through their Concerted Works, then speeding things up when an influx of Wanderer's finally makes their way to the last server on the list... I really don't see that as a healthy system to have in place for a gameplay element like this at all...

[Nekoaura]

PISSED I CANT GET IN MY OWN SERVER AND 1/2 HOUR BEFORE THE FATE IS UP.

Forget 30 minutes: you now can't even get in 60-90 minutes before the thing get's full on Moogle. In other words, unless you get in just as the project was completed you have no chance. This is the worse server event content I've taken part in. Even though I help stockpile for it I can't do the FATE. Whatever progress my realm makes - I don't proud of it or like I've contribute to it. Me and many on my realm are stuck outside of it. I'm just being used as a grunt whilst people from other realms get all the rewards.

[John_Milter]

A friend just made a very good point; The fact that we can World Visit actually takes away from smaller servers as well, rather than simply being a boon to them. Crafters from smaller servers are just as able and likely to visit other servers when its time for their Concerted Works as the reverse, and while they're there waiting they're either contributing to that server, or simply AFK. Either way they're not contributing to their home server at all during that time, then they hop to a different server again and continue not contributing to their home server... So rather than speeding things up for smaller servers, it's more likely slowing them down while the other servers work through their Concerted Works, then speeding things up when an influx of Wanderer's finally makes their way to the last server on the list... I really don't see that as a healthy system to have in place for a gameplay element like this at all...

if they want to remove world visit they'll have to change the system. im not saying your wrong, but im saying as the system currently is the world visit problem both helps and fucks some stuff up. Theyd probably need to make the fate happen more on each server if they do a lockout, because most people can't afford to be there 2 of the 3 times the fate is up in a day, and if they get home and their server's fate is already done and they cant stay up 8 hours for the next one world visit is the only way they can participate in it.

not to mention the recent influx of crafters with the 5.1 changes

[RyzerStormwind]

Why is it when we try to find solutions people give extreme solutions? That is probably over 2000 items to gather at lvl 70 and many people do not have that time. So then people would have to stockpile and then contribute and hope the fate pops while still online? Come now... that would make the opposite problem where people just opt out once they got the items they need through scrips. Or just skip the whole event entirely bc the hassle is not worth the rewards.

I'd say a contribution of 500 points should be cool enough.
Most of the server jumpers just camp without putting in a single craft.

Additionally this content is for those who have completed Ishgard. So its actually pointless for most lvl 20 crafters unless its owned by a veteran who doesnt craft in the first place.
The content is gated for Midtier and above players.
I have characters in different servers who have not started Ishgard but crafters are at 50 already.
Additionally Yellow scriping is faster and more rewarding. The only advantage is the glam, mount and pose for Ishgard scrips.