Ishgardian Restoration world visit.

[Crushnight]

Honestly just make it so you have to contribute 7500 points before the fates spawn to be able to particpate or get booted out of the firmament until fate is over. This would keep people who actually contributed to the effort, slow down any off world people as they are forced to do a fair few crafts to participate per world.

7500 points would be less than a 100 lv 70 crafts with highest rating as an example how easy it is.

[KatCnaa]

The FATE was the only way for gatherers to get scrip. That's pretty badly imbalanced.

What if the IR nodes drop turn-in items as you gather, the way The Giving Land drops crystals? That way gatherers are still free to sell or use those mats so the MB for those items for crafters doesn't become incredibly imbalanced, but people who have gatherers (or enjoy DoL content much more) can do that AND have a way to earn scrip?

[KatCnaa]

Honestly just make it so you have to contribute 7500 points before the fates spawn to be able to particpate or get booted out of the firmament until fate is over. This would keep people who actually contributed to the effort, slow down any off world people as they are forced to do a fair few crafts to participate per world.

7500 points would be less than a 100 lv 70 crafts with highest rating as an example how easy it is.

I agree with this idea, though I would make it a bit lower, for those who have less time. But yeah, 1% or 7500 pts or something. But make it fair to those crafters who are only lvl 20. It's supposed to encourage players to take up crafting. Not quit out of bitterness.

[MomomiMomi]

7500 points would be less than a 100 lv 70 crafts with highest rating as an example how easy it is.

100 crafts is a lot to ask for a casual crafter - the people this is aimed at.

[RyzerStormwind]

The FATE was the only way for gatherers to get scrip. That's pretty badly imbalanced.

What if the IR nodes drop turn-in items as you gather, the way The Giving Land drops crystals? That way gatherers are still free to sell or use those mats so the MB for those items for crafters doesn't become incredibly imbalanced, but people who have gatherers (or enjoy DoL content much more) can do that AND have a way to earn scrip?

I for one would like some challenging content for gatherers. Crafting despite being hard is all about overmelding the latest gear and following a fixed rotation.
Eureka was a fun system with its own levelling system for DoW/DoM.

I wonder if a similar system for crafters/gatherers is possible. That rewards hardcore players and not the casual folks who jumped in because Crafting/Gathering became 10x faster.

Yoshisan mentions a ranking system- It reminds me of a similar system in previous years - it became more about about showing off and arrogance rather than to promote any content.
I'd be careful with such a system.

[Shadow018]

It was absolutely clear that it would come to this and now we have to wait until SE decides to put a stop to it, great, really motivating me to participate any more in it.
My recommendation: Reset the event back to zero when you block players from other worlds from participating, so that those of us who have better things to do than afking there 1 hour or longer to get 500 scrips from the fate also have a chance to participate.
And maybe even go a step further and remove all already gathered scrips and items, if possible, so that those egoists that hopped from server to server to get 500 scrips for free while blocking us don't get anything out of it.

[wereotter]

100 crafts is a lot to ask for a casual crafter - the people this is aimed at.

I agree with this... I did 100 skybuilders' cooking pots last night, and not only did that mean crafting 100 items as collectables, but it also meant crafting 100 dark chestnut lumber, gathering 500 dark chestnut logs to make that lumber, as well as gathering 600 skybuilders' high mythrite sand and 600 skybuilders' hardsilver ore. Making 100 items is a pretty massive time investment, it took me almost two hours to do this.

[GojuSuzi]

Honestly just make it so you have to contribute 7500 points before the fates spawn to be able to particpate or get booted out of the firmament until fate is over. This would keep people who actually contributed to the effort, slow down any off world people as they are forced to do a fair few crafts to participate per world.

7500 points would be less than a 100 lv 70 crafts with highest rating as an example how easy it is.

As other have said, that's a bit high. Also bear in mind some may be handing in the level 20 crafter stuff, which will be waaaay less points.
But something like 20 hand-ins buying access to a single CE on that server (resetting on world move) would at least stop casual theft-tourists, and force folk to leave and gather or buy materials to contribute on a continuous basis, interrupting the FATE-train flow consistantly; a the same time, being achieveable by even a newbie with no crafter over 20 and limited time to play (or time before the next CE).

[Anselmet]

Honestly just make it so you have to contribute 7500 points before the fates spawn to be able to particpate or get booted out of the firmament until fate is over. This would keep people who actually contributed to the effort, slow down any off world people as they are forced to do a fair few crafts to participate per world.

7500 points would be less than a 100 lv 70 crafts with highest rating as an example how easy it is.

Why is it when we try to find solutions people give extreme solutions? That is probably over 2000 items to gather at lvl 70 and many people do not have that time. So then people would have to stockpile and then contribute and hope the fate pops while still online? Come now... that would make the opposite problem where people just opt out once they got the items they need through scrips. Or just skip the whole event entirely bc the hassle is not worth the rewards.

[Alenonimo]

What if the FATES happened much more often? People would not be afraid to miss them out and wouldn't have much reason to world hop.

Instead of 8 hours, why not every hour? Diminish the exp and scrips a bit... Wouldn't it work?