Viera can't use the new Modern Aesthetics - Modern Legend

[Celef]

They did not want to add Vieras in the first place but were forced to by the community and the company seeing the financial potential (remember we did not get a free Fantasi this time, when we did for Au'ra....) so they are just making sure we get the idea they were forced to do something they did not want....

[rachcouture]

They did not want to add Vieras in the first place but were forced to by the community and the company seeing the financial potential (remember we did not get a free Fantasi this time, when we did for Au'ra....) so they are just making sure we get the idea they were forced to do something they did not want....

No one forced them to do anything. The playerbase can influence, but it doesn't have the power to make development decisions.

[Icycrits]

I understand that Viera were just a last minute addition to the game in order to appease the fanbase, and I'm really happy they did add them even in their extremely limited forms... but what annoys me is their radio silence on the issues. It's almost been 5 months since the launch of Shadowbringers and not once have they come out and apologized for the poor communication regarding the limitations of the new races. The only thing they told us pre-launch was that these races would not be able to use existing hats and be limited on existing hairstyles. They launch the new races and make us wait weeks for the naming conventions, then when they finally release them they were the most rushed lore I have ever seen in my life. It could've been scribbled on a napkin at that point. Then comes all of the patch gear, half of it works, half of it doesn't. It seems completely random what we get and what we don't. Like we're the afterthought, while Miqote get special models for their cat ears on headgear. It's sad.

I wish they would just come out every patch and say, "these new armor models and hairstyles will not be usable by hrothgar, but we want to make them available in the future" or even "these will never be made available to the new races," and just give people the closure they are asking for. I'm sick of being kept in the dark. People will still complain, but the worst part is logging into patch day to see everyone playing with their new toys and us Viera and Hrothgar players have to figure out for ourselves whether the new content is even usable by us. I mean there is a player out there who had to spend 1800 of the new scrips just to be a guinea pig for the viera community just to see if we could use the hairstyle. That's not okay. I don't even like the new hairstyle, but it's more than that. It's about respect for your loyal consumers.

[Rjrn]

And here we are again, in this same forum, and still without a clear answer. Viera was the thing who made me buy the game, is my Favorite FF race but after months, big patchs and nothing, its REALLY tiring, a race placed to fanservice without customize options?! It looks like a shot in the foot itself.

We need to think several things first, Viera body models are not accurate with their original design, it was the first budget and time cut, racial gear is imported from Fran in SB quest, two races add with less than 6-9 haircuts!? (bangs are not divine changes lol) i dont remember very well, we vieras complain but Hrothgar are far worse, i really feel sorry for them.

But where do I want to go? If you dont care about headgears, hairstyles because you found your "perfect one", cool go on, go straight, do not try do delegitimate the voice of the people who are trying to explain their discontent. Its annoying see other people who never was any of the new races say that we are complaining too much or with a full belly.

Its really a shame, new dg gear not work, pvp gear not work, new hairstyles not work. And it's been months and no updates? Not a comment? A little hope? Are they really pping on our heads? The same happens with other companies, like Riot Games, who really loves to do not hear their community, and giving to us poor buyable content.

[Slirith]

SE is too busy wasting resources on bard perform and other junk that maybe 1% or less of the player base uses.

[Avidria]

They did not want to add Vieras in the first place but were forced to by the community and the company seeing the financial potential (remember we did not get a free Fantasi this time, when we did for Au'ra....) so they are just making sure we get the idea they were forced to do something they did not want....

They weren't "forced" to do anything. If they didn't want to add Viera, they shouldn't have. Frankly I'm starting to think that they shouldn't have anyway - until they were ready to actually *finish* them.

I love this race, but staring at hat after hat and hairstyle after hairstyle that I can't use - some of which took me a very long time to get - is just really disappointing. And considering there hasn't been a single mention of this that I've seen the entire time since the expansion came out? It's just getting frustrating.

These new races were poorly thought through and poorly executed. I'm not out here quitting the game over it, but heck if it doesn't leave a bad taste in my mouth.

[Rollout]

Viera and Hrothgar have been the rawest example of laziness by Square Enix's part since they were revealed during the Fan Fests.

[Celef]

No one forced them to do anything. The playerbase can influence, but it doesn't have the power to make development decisions.

I think it does, considering the amount of player ready to change race when Viera were added, the amount of player that actually changed back when the Au'ra were added and buying Fantasia in the process I would not be surprised if the bosses told them to make the race in order to make more money

[LaylaTsarra]

Square can't use this as an excuse when independent modders have not only increased the resolution of the faces and hair on old races, but have also made in-game hairstyles work on viera. Hrothgar are more challenging due to the poor way they were designed though.

Modders work off server with your individual workstation. Much of what is modded doesn't work with everything and trying to use that as a justification is pretty weak. i think it's disappointing to have to wait for more seriously but that doesn't somehow make the modding community the go to for what works in game.

Relative to the new hairstyle I'll admit its pretty disappointing it's not working for all races.

[Nalien]

SE is too busy wasting resources on bard perform and other junk that maybe 1% or less of the player base uses.

I mean... Isn't it something like only 3% of the playerbase playing as Viera? That's not much better in terms of wasting resources on niche communities... Heck I'd argue it's worse, sure very few people bother with Performance, but it's still something literally anyone can utilize if they want to. Only way 97% of the playerbase gets anything out of them putting extra resources into giving Viera new haircuts is by dumping money on the Mogstation for a Fantasia...

Not that I disagree with the sentiment that this is laziness on SEs part, I just find it funny to call them out on wasting resources on the 1% when Viera basically are also 1%. Seems they set themselves up for failure with how unwilling they are to treat Hrothgar and Viera the same as other races; Every new hairstyle they add is going to be a repeat of this topic. New headgear? Exclusive rewards like the Cloud haircut from the recent furniture event? One wonders why they even bothered adding these new races when they just seem to constantly be setting themselves up for complaints regarding them...