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  1. #51
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They've had a number of requests to add things - such as new facial hair options for male characters - only to claim it would be too hard despite modders managing to implement it in a way that looks good. So I'll admit to not having much patience, especially when situations such as this arise. Hrothgar and Viera players deserve better.
    I'm not disputing that we need some content and quickly. I personally was disappointed we got nothing for 5.1. Hopefully they'll address the issue in an upcoming letter because the community deserves to know what is coming and when. The fact we got no new race specific hair let alone some of the other ones people would like to see.
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  2. #52
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They've had a number of requests to add things - such as new facial hair options for male characters - only to claim it would be too hard despite modders managing to implement it in a way that looks good. So I'll admit to not having much patience, especially when situations such as this arise. Hrothgar and Viera players deserve better.
    The question is, how are the modders implementing it?

    Are they replacing one of the existing options?

    Are they constructing it as part of a hairstyle, and if so, what happens if you try to put the same hairstyle-with-beard on a different face shape?

    The thing about mods being client-side is that they can replace elements they don't personally care about with new designs that they want. They can customise things to look great on their specific character, without worrying about what effect it has on everyone else's, or whether it works for every possible character design. The concerns and priorities are different.
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  3. #53
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Yet people kept saying that new races aren't gonna be taxing to the game and should also add the other genders even if they're incomplete. At least the current content delivery isn't affected and we're getting more stuff than we got in SB.

    Yes, I get it that modders can do stuff in a day or two. But they're not working on next expansion or new content stuff alongside that. Of course I'm also not excusing the dev team for not making sure the new hair works for Viera. They should have anticipated the workload they're gonna deal with by adding them, so they should at least make sure the new stuff are working for them.
    Well, in the end it's their job to make sure they have the resources to get things done. Maybe it's just a struggle to get the human resources they need based on how they want to handle things, but it's not an insoluble problem, and money does not seem to be the problem here. I still think two half-races is just weak, but whatever... it's the prospect of no real upgrades to the existing character customisation and textures which concerns me more.

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  4. #54
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    Miss Eclipse
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Saddly, they did mention that Viera and Hrothgar would get 'original' haircuts, so you can bet they won't get to use the old Mogstation haircuts or the ones they add later. It will be original haircuts just for them.

    Its a shame really. They could have added one or two by now with the latest updates.
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  5. #55
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The question is, how are the modders implementing it?

    Are they replacing one of the existing options?
    They replace existing content with their modded versions so to add a hairstyle they simply mod one of the existing styles removing that option from the game and replacing it with the new one. They aren't adding content to the game itself but are simply altering what the user sees on their own screen.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 11-13-2019 at 10:12 AM.

  6. #56
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The question is, how are the modders implementing it?

    Are they replacing one of the existing options?

    Are they constructing it as part of a hairstyle, and if so, what happens if you try to put the same hairstyle-with-beard on a different face shape?

    The thing about mods being client-side is that they can replace elements they don't personally care about with new designs that they want. They can customise things to look great on their specific character, without worrying about what effect it has on everyone else's, or whether it works for every possible character design. The concerns and priorities are different.
    I'm not sure how they're doing it, but the game is overdue a revamp and update to the character customisation system. Hopefully we get one soon, especially since it's biggest rival is pushing enhanced customisation as a major selling point for its next expansion.
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  7. #57
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    Oniwori Kiyuromi
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Modders don't have deadlines and stockholders breathing down their neck.
    They also don't have to take in account other systems people are using to have higher polygons and textures or server stress and so on.
    Heck even on the higher resolution/ polygons mods, it warns you to use at your own risk.
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  8. #58
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    Ryu Saarva
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    it's clearly a male only hairstyle so no female should ever use it.
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  9. #59
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    Sayura Ava
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Does anyone have a picture of it?
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  10. #60
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    Aryl Ritz
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Every time new headpieces or hairstyles come out that don’t work with viera my heart sinks a little.

    But I’m still gonna be viera, and never change, and I’m still glad they added viera and hrothgar into the game.

    Idk what the solution is, and it sucks for now, and will continue to suck. I don’t like getting super mad at square about it, but I feel the pain
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    Is moonlight without dark"

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