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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Where was the buyer friendly price in the first place when you listed your item
    When I listed my item it was at least 10% lower than the previous listing. You act like everyone undercuts by 1 gil then only gets mad when someone else does it to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValyrianBlood View Post
    I think we can agree some ppl are just trying to scam newbies who don't know any better...Sure there are veterans with gil who may be too lazy to craft themselves but such audacious prizes for low level junk I never saw before I transferred from Cerberus to Spriggan.
    I used to see accessories from an NPC right next to the marketboard being sold for 10x their price with sale history at people buying that price. It's sort of wild.
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  3. #93
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    Now that my cheaply purchased goods have finally arrived in the mail, I can now post something a little more lengthy.

    There are a lot of things that people are not taking into consideration when someone decides what is a good practice in listing an item or not.

    One of the major things that seems to be ignored is this: sellers are buyers, too. As a buyer, I like to see prices sold cheaply. Practices like 1 gil undercuts do not promote this. Whenever I see someone selling their item for 1 gil under the one below them, I make a conscious decision not to buy theirs. Unfortunately, not everyone does this, so people who do 1 gil undercutting will eventually be rewarded for their practices anyway.

    Another thing is that undercutting is not the only effective method to sell items. Due to the way that we can only buy what is being sold at the quantities it's being sold at, there are multiple ways you can use to make your item more appealing. One of the more obvious ones is to sell in quantities lower than what is being sold, but there are others. One that a lot of people don't realize they can do is such: sell at quantities higher than what is being offered, and at a higher price.

    Buyers are sometimes looking for different things. Their needs can be somewhat specific depending on the recipe. If a recipe calls for 4 of an item, but there are only 2 listings at the lowest price of 1 item each, then you can actually list a stack of 4 for a higher price that the other listings and still get yours sold before them.

    I like to see sellers put some effort into appealing to their buyers. 1 gil undercut is one of the most least effort things a seller can do while simply screaming "me first!" It's unappealing to me as a buyer, and it's annoying and rude as a fellow seller. And so I reiterate: if you want yours sold first, offer something I'm not. A 1 gil undercut is not a deal.
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    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 11-13-2019 at 03:45 AM.

  4. #94
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    Undercutting by 1 Gil is the most respectful way you can list your item without cutting into the other people's profit by tanking the price.

    And please let's stop the upvote farming narrative that you tank prices for the buyers. If you can tank prices that hard because some one undercut for 1 Gil without massively hurting your profit, you could have already set your price that low in the first place. You just care about your profit until someone undercuts, then it's just tanking out of spite. Helping the buyers is just a convenient excuse to justify Gil baron flexing.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    If you can tank prices that hard because some one undercut for 1 Gil without massively hurting your profit, you could have already set your price that low in the first place.
    I suppose that's what we should do, then, right? Let's just list the items at rock bottom prices from the start.

    Also, no, it's not the most respectful way to list your item. That's absurd. You have multiple other options, including listing at the same price and listing at a higher price.
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    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 11-13-2019 at 03:59 AM.

  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I suppose that's what we should do, then, right? Let's just list the items at rock bottom prices from the start.
    You're the one trying to justify greed and spite with "helping the buyers". Make a better argument, then? And respect the fact that there are no exclusive sellers and your prices don't deserve any special consideration above the others instead of ruining profit for everyone involved.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You're the one trying to justify greed and spite with "helping the buyers". Make a better argument, then? And respect the fact that there are no exclusive sellers and your prices don't deserve any special consideration above the others instead of ruining profit for everyone involved.
    I haven't tried to make gil in over 5 years. Apparently I'm greedy now.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I haven't tried to make gil in over 5 years. Apparently I'm greedy now.
    If undercutting by one Gil threatens your bottom line and upsets you so that you need to tank the price immediately, then yes you seem to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Undercutting by 1 Gil is the most respectful way you can list your item without cutting into the other people's profit by tanking the price.
    Not "The Most Respectful", the MOST respectful way would be to put your price up at the exact same price, then you both have an equal chance at a sell.
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    Also If I see $19,999 I will drop it to $19,000. Same with any price. We can play the 1 Gil game as long as you are ok with dropping it 1k every time you want to drop it 1 Gil. I've got time to play the auction house mini-game.
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