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    Freyt's Avatar
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    Rabbit Ackerman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arillyn View Post
    I don't understand why it matters if it's a huge FC or a small, even 1 person FC (having a one person FC is something else and not what I'm debating - just the fact that large FCs can, and some do, operate the same way in regards to profiting as a 1-person FC). There are large FCs with a house who don't share the profit with their members. The only one who makes a profit is the FC owner and MAYBE 1 or 2 others in the FC. What's the difference in that vs a 1-person FC?
    That's exactly what my plan addresses. By forcing the profit to come only at the addition of members means that FC's have to plan and communicate with their member base. They may keep it down to a select few they want, but people will inevitably talk about it, and the rest of their members can address it how they will. Not to mention that if those select few are not all available when someone wants to use this profit method, they'll have to rely on their other members or fail to take advantage of it.

    The problem with small FC's isn't that small FC's should or shouldn't be able to profit, but that a single player can have 8 small FC's on one world, 40 per account, and if all of those have FC houses, then all of them are potentially earning just as much as any large FC, but for one individual only, as well as taking up 40 plots across the entire XIV game per account.

    The current housing system indeed WAS at first intended for FC's only. I propose that they get a new system entirely, instead of sharing what they have with individuals. It can be exclusive to FC's. As it is you would still have the richest individuals owning 8 plots per world for each of their 8 FC's, and the problem wouldn't be solved even if you cut personal housing entirely.
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    Arillyn Lovesong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    That's exactly what my plan addresses. By forcing the profit to come only at the addition of members means that FC's have to plan and communicate with their member base. They may keep it down to a select few they want, but people will inevitably talk about it, and the rest of their members can address it how they will. Not to mention that if those select few are not all available when someone wants to use this profit method, they'll have to rely on their other members or fail to take advantage of it.
    But FC members can already do that now and if they don't like how an FC is run or that profit isn't shared they can leave and go to another FC. SE did stop multiple FC house ownership until they realized that if someone is in an FC that owns a house, even if the member wasn't the FC owner or even a leader, that if they had an alt in another FC (again not even the FC owner) that didn't yet own a house, that FC couldn't buy one. Which was a problem.

    I understand where you are coming from regarding the multiple FC house owners. If there was a real option of instance housing that FC or individual could own yes that would fix the issue and everyone can have a house.

    Bottom line this isn't really a player issue. This is an SE issue they created by limiting housing. They just need to open up instance housing (not apartments, real housing).
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