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    Eliadil's Avatar
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    Adrila Messor
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    The issue with 5.X Samuraï isn't its damage tbh, but the rotation that feels way too weird because of Tsubame. Tbh, solving the rotation issue would solve every issue that Sam has right now, and would make the class feel more fluid, and you wouldn't be as penalized as you are right now for not using Tsubame perfectly on cd (because you didn't want to greed at a specific part of the fight, meaning you're drifting your entire rotation/burst. Again, you shouldn't be punished as much for doing a mechanic properly).

    Atm it is way harder to play Sam at max efficiency than it was before, because the only thing you have to do is get a 100% uptime on every fight for that, which a lot of players do not want to do (you often don't want to risk dying and getting the dead debuff which would result in a greater dps loss) or simply cannot do because of high ping. And that is the huge design flaw of the current Sam.
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    Last edited by Eliadil; 11-05-2019 at 07:42 AM.
    Still not sure if Samurai's a tank who forgot that aggro was a thing or a dps that's way too much into it.

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    Tracewood's Avatar
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    Eugene Tracewood
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliadil View Post
    The issue with 5.X Samuraï isn't its damage tbh, but the rotation that feels way too weird because of Tsubame. Tbh, solving the rotation issue would solve every issue that Sam has right now, and would make the class feel more fluid, and you wouldn't be as penalized as you are right now for not using Tsubame perfectly on cd (because you didn't want to greed at a specific part of the fight, meaning you're drifting your entire rotation/burst. Again, you shouldn't be punished as much for doing a mechanic properly).

    Atm it is way harder to play Sam at max efficiency than it was before, because the only thing you have to do is get a 100% uptime on every fight for that, which a lot of players do not want to do (you often don't want to risk dying and getting the dead debuff which would result in a greater dps loss) or simply cannot do because of high ping. And that is the huge design flaw of the current Sam.
    I think you've hit the nail, what hurts me the most is not having much uptime. When doing Hades EX there are a few mechanics that you have to move away from your target (line aoe+meteor in phase 2, orbs, chandeliers, and doors in phase one... worse when the tank keeps moving the target around) sometimes shadow spread when you can't be too close to him or you get hit twice or are too far from a safe gap before the next SS goes off.
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    Gruntler's Avatar
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    Kawaiian Punch
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    I think you've hit the nail, what hurts me the most is not having much uptime. When doing Hades EX there are a few mechanics that you have to move away from your target (line aoe+meteor in phase 2, orbs, chandeliers, and doors in phase one... worse when the tank keeps moving the target around) sometimes shadow spread when you can't be too close to him or you get hit twice or are too far from a safe gap before the next SS goes off.
    Most groups handle Broken Faith by staying in the center and eating vuln stacks. You might see certain casters doing the dance to prevent their spells from getting interrupted but for the most part, you shouldn't need to move as Samurai here.

    Nabriales Tethers and Meteors--how far are you moving out? You can aim your tether while staying on the add itself. If your tether is long, you're doing it wrong. Certain tethers can be aimed without leaving melee--you just need to aim it at any meteor besides the second, without hitting another dps--this is easiest when people aren't standing off in the boonies.

    Books and orbs are pretty much ez mode for samurai, you yeet yourself out, enpi, yeet back in.

    The only other downtime you have is during Ascian Prime.
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