I was a Mentor. Now I am just a Crafting Mentor because I don't have 1500 coms.

[Alynn]

You get commendations because you've proved yourself helpful by either a) offering advice to those who need it b) playing your role correctly and not being a monkey/causing mad chaos c) all around helpful. I've farmed commends as a dps just by doing dps and mechanics. That being said, 1.5k commendations isn't anything too harsh to ask for imo. If you've done everything in the proper way (and I'm pointing mostly here to if you did not go unsync Ifrit a gajillion times), then you should already be well on your way for commends. It's a privilege to be a mentor, not a right, especially if one doesn't fulfill the requirements. You don't need a cosmetic item to be helpful.

When I play tank or healer I usually give it to the dps who's caused me the least strife. Or I'll give it to the person who's trying to improve and you can clearly see. Tbh I'm glad they put this blockade on it because I am NOT going to commend a summoner with a mentor crown pre 5.1 when they are not worthy of displaying the crown because they lack knowledge of the fight, the class, and general gameplay as a whole. Maybe this time around we'll have mentors who are actually capable, because most people who proudly displayed the crown had zero business to.

[JowyAtreides]

#entitlement

[PyurBlue]

"The best we have" =/= "Its good"

I didnt say it was a "good measurment", I said its the best - and only - we have. We can agree on it not being a "good" one, but please tell me: What better option do we have? What other system do we have in game that can be checked by the system to tell wether or not you're someone other people might enjoy having around to do a dungeon with?

It's not even about looking for alternative methods of evaluation necessarily, but not trying to extrapolate beyond the information you have. Comms being only vaguely relevant for determining likability or helpfulness doesn't mean that you can't use them, but it makes me hesitant to heap more and more importance on them. Using the total number collected only really serves as time gate anyway. If you barely manage to scrape 1 comm out of every few dungeon runs, you'll eventually have enough to meet the mentor requirement. The game already tracks playtime and can use it to set your eligibility for statuses (such as novice) so the comm requirement as is could be replaced with a time requirement with little impact.

I guess if I had to summarize my opinion it's that just because something is the best option doesn't mean that it's good enough. If SE was going to make stricter mentor requirements, they should have looked into ones that were more meaningful. Comms per dungeon run for example makes much more sense (as long as it doesn't penalize you for running content where you can't be commed) because it can't be overcome by just playing the game long enough.

[Nix]

Actually, I do not think so at all. Whenever I am running a dungeon with my cousin (I as Red Mage, he as Black Mage) and it's a 4-man, we almost never get a commendation, so the tank(s) and healer(s) are trading. So the profession matters already. DPS have low impact as there are too many to stand out and we have low individual regocnition:

I make plenty of comms as DPS - I once received 7 comms as BRD when running a 24-man because I was helpful and kept my pt laughing. I don't think being a "UwU Kaaawaiii gamer gurl" has anything to do with it.
You're not going to gel with every party, and that's fine - but from experience, just being helpful, light-hearted, and skilled will net you enough comms.

[Krotoan]

Mentoring is not a reward, it was supposed to be a commitment to help new/uneducated players. If you think something was OWED to you then you really didn't understand what mentoring was about.

[Sated]

An arbitrary number of comms isn't a great indication of helpfulness (considering what a lot of people comm for) but if it's keeping people with an "I'm taking my ball and going home if you don't call me Sir" attitude from being mentors then it's better than what we had before.

[Novae]

I think the mentor system has been made for people who progress trough the duty finder. I see many players here and on reddit or even in game complaining not getting enough commendations because they mostly play with friends. I'm sorry but why do you need to be a mentor first if you only play with your clique/friends/static?
You're not helping anyone, you're not taking the chance to queue into a newbie/terrible group. You just want to play in a controlled environment with similar skilled players. There's nothing wrong about it, but I don't see why you should get or deserve any commendations for avoiding the DF.

I've been spamming DF since I start playing 11 months ago. I've been very dedicated to it because well... I like it. I like being in random groups with random players in a sometimes very chaotic environment. I have 2397 commendations. Playing all 3 roles. I sometimes queue as tank/healer solely to help DPS get their queues faster. I've always been polite, always been greeting and thanking players even if they weren't replying. English isn't even my first language. SE and the game decided to reward me for this and giving me the mentor crown, and I took it. Of course, I think the crown doesn't represent what a mentor should be, and I like the tree or water can suggestion a lot more but hey, there's nothing I can do about it.

I'm glad they changed the minimum commendations to 1500, because I've run into so many terrible mentors, ifrit spammers who were doing nothing but adding more shame to the symbol. They weren't helpful, polite or kind, and most of them were just plain bad at this game. I hate judging on others skills but come on, you don't deserve any symbol when you still don't know how to stack at lvl 80. For a good while, I wasn't even wearing mine because of these players. Now I'm glad they are gone and I hope we will be able to rebuild our reputation. But I don't know... there are still a lot of arrogance among remaining mentors.

Imho, kindness should come first as mentor, then knowledge, then skill.

Give me a heart symbol SE, I'll make good usage of it.

[DevilsDontFly]

Do you go to work with that attitude?

I kinda feel sorry now. Oh well.

[Brightamethyst]

#entitlement

No, it's really not in this case.

Let's face it, there are probably a lot of people who had their mentor status stripped simply because SE increased the most arbitrary of the requirements by 400%. It's not entitlement to be annoyed by that.

[DevilsDontFly]

No, it's really not in this case.

Let's face it, there are probably a lot of people who had their mentor status stripped simply because SE increased the most arbitrary of the requirements by 400%. It's not entitlement to be annoyed by that.

While I agree that a commendation requirement isn't the best way to go about it, the whole entitlement argument people have been throwing is because of the idea of:

If you need a fancy icon to feel like mentoring someone, you're probably not fit to be one in the first place. It's like wanting recognition for doing charity. If you wanna help, you just do it. No cameras or witnesses are needed to validate how "good and helpful" of a person you are.

And by you I mean people in general.