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  1. #31
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    Losara's Avatar
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    Axis Sunsoar
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 98
    Never been a fan of self created mentors.

    No training required, no test needs to be taken. How are we qualified to be mentors in the first place?
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  2. #32
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    Buzzwords's Avatar
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    Michael Stark
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    december can't come soon enough -.-

    see also: BYE FELICIA!
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  3. #33
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    Selova's Avatar
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I was just shy of 1500 comms (1300ish) and i didn't even meet the requirements for mentor until Stormblood. If you not having a gold crown above your head is the only reason you were a mentor, then you were a mentor for the wrong reasons. It's stuff like this that makes me heavily debate whether or not i even want to turn it on again after i get the required commendations.
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  4. #34
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    RowanLauron's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Rowan Lauron
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Subbed for two years eh?

    -looks at own legacy tattoo-

    /chuckle
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  5. #35
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Being a mentor is not meant as reward, its meant as a sign of "Hey, this person has proven to be exceptional helpful and nice in the past and is willing to continue to do so"
    Eeh ... no it doesn't.
    If you know how to play properly you rack up commendations w/o having to say much. I am at 2700 now.

    None of the prerequisites actually demand communication with other players, which explains why many a troll runs around with the mentor crown.
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  6. #36
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
    World
    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Play tank/healer classes and don't suck at them and you'll get comms. Also be genuinely polite.

    Quote Originally Posted by RowanLauron View Post
    Subbed for two years eh?

    -looks at own legacy tattoo-

    /chuckle
    Not sure what is your point. Yeah I been around since closed beta (oops) but it's nothing to brag about and has nothing to do with the topic.
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  7. #37
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    MeowingKittens's Avatar
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    Character
    Cats Meow
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    The only thing you've "lost" by not being a battle mentor is access to mentor roulette. Everyone has the ability to help, and you still have Novice Network access.

    The only reason reason of which to do Mentor roulette is for the Astrope mount, or you want to roll a "give me any duty" button. Let's be completely honest here; anyone who might just want to help can also do so by shouting in any city for what someone is stuck in queue for for a while and help with that (or make a cross world PF advertising assistance), so mentor roulette frankly isn't even very good at helping others get content done. A good number of my mentor runs were just ordinary duties with no one new, and I was just another body filling a queue.

    VERY few people are going to put in the work for that mount (there are just barely 1,000 IN EXISTENCE), and if you're not, what do you NEED mentor roulette for? Why is lack of access to it a deal breaker of any kind?

    Being a mentor is something that you earn. Something that you work for. Not something to be handed. It's not a participation badge. Respect is not given to you because you give them money. EVERY ONE OF US DOES THAT TOO.


    I once thought people were too harsh on mentors, and that people just kept hopping onto the mentor hate wagon. All the topics with people complaining about this change have shown me that, no, people's overall assessment and concern over poor mentors wasn't completely wrong. I'm not going to try and convince anyone that I ever was, or am, a good mentor. But I'd like to think 7,000 comms (more than half of which were on DPS) at least says I was not among the terrible.
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  8. #38
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Most "mentors" don't actually want to "help" people. They want the supposed "prestige" that comes with the crown (the reward), or to have access to the Novice Network, and act out their power fantasy of being a chat moderator.

    If there is any "help" given it is not help, but a set of orders. If the player(s) don't do what they say they go off on a tirade through the chat much of the time. Make believe raid leaders, another example of them exercising a power fantasy, no matter how laughable that fantasy is.

    Get rid of the mentor system entirely! That would be the only true fix for the mentor problem, and no amount of requirements will fix it, You make it too low, anyone can become a mentor, relatively. You make it too high, it becomes a collection of elitists. Features like the new fellowships would be a better solution to actually help new players; a chat channel where everyone is equal in theory is better. At least with fellowships, you can join another if problems arise, or create your own. However, this feature seems to be flawed too from what I have skimmed about it. Just to add.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 11-01-2019 at 05:38 PM.
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  9. #39
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    Alacran's Avatar
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absinth View Post
    SE would grandfather in almost anything else but you don't grandfather us mentors. I am going to keep this short. You don't respect how much time and effort I have put into the game so far. You don't respect that I have been a mentor for over 2 years. Then you don't need my $30.00 a month. Maybe you will respect that.
    Been playing since 1.0, paying for three accounts, my name is in the credits, and i have 40 level 80's across all roles, on my main account. I don't feel i deserve to be a mentor, not sure why you do. As many have said before me, you can help without the crown, as it stands, you're just an example of why the system should be more stringent.
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    "Nemo me impune lacessit."

  10. #40
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    And what for do you need burger crown icon? It was an icon of shame before.
    Thats why i removed it quite a while ago. Mentorstatus does not have any positive meaning anymore, if it ever had one.
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