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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiibieTwuu View Post
    People are worried that when people loose interest in the raid it will be impossible to get the set.

    Kinda like how it's almost impossible to get the eureka glamours now.

    Plus the ques will only take longer to get into the raid due to less players. Only chance will be getting it in a Alliance roulette. Even then most folks will probably just undergear to get one of the easier raids.

    So best get it early before it becomes even harder to get.

    Some people do the ilvl thing sure, but I've still gotten Orbonne in alliance roulette. Not everyone does that, you'll still be able to queue into it. Sure, maybe it won't be as quick as a dps queueing into it today and getting near instant queues, but it's not like Eureka. You can still get into Orbonne today and you'll be able to get into CF when it's added to the roulette.
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  2. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I'm already burnt out of raid trying to win a coffer because of how hard they made it. They should took that into thought if ones get burned out of the raid it be dead soon. If they made it quest reward and not locked it to rolling on I would been running it every week. Now once get the coffer I will never run it again because don't want remember all lost rolls from it.
    First of all the raid really isnt hard or difficult.
    Second of all I dont think they should take the possibitly that people might suffer from sort of burn out anymore into account than they're already doing, for example by giving us weekly lookouts (which serves both as a means to make sure people dont burn through content to fast aswell as preventing burn out on top of making sure content still gets queued for a week after release giving late-comers a shot at it too)
    Third of all you could have spaced those runs out over a couple of days, weeks or even months - it was your choice to do this right now, at a time where people are still learning and arent overgeared, making runs take longer than they will in 2-3 weeks.
    Fourth of all... they have an intrest in people running this more than once, even more than once a week to keep queues going and giving people "something to do (that offers a reward)" - seems to be working perfectly.

    Seriously, stop whining about a problem you created for yourself by the way you're approaching this because you need to have things right this minute.
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Some people do the ilvl thing sure, but I've still gotten Orbonne in alliance roulette. Not everyone does that, you'll still be able to queue into it. Sure, maybe it won't be as quick as a dps queueing into it today and getting near instant queues, but it's not like Eureka. You can still get into Orbonne today and you'll be able to get into CF when it's added to the roulette.
    To add to this, If you really wanna farm the regular gear glams, it would probably be easier to just wait until there is no lockout on it. Get all of it in a couple weeks, or less. Just down to the amount of time you would want to put into it. Could probably win other sets by just greeding at that point too.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 11-01-2019 at 03:38 AM. Reason: Clarification - habit of adding to quotes instead of replying
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  4. #244
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    XenoSamurai's Avatar
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    Alice Liddell
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I'm already burnt out of raid trying to win a coffer because of how hard they made it. They should took that into thought if ones get burned out of the raid it be dead soon. If they made it quest reward and not locked it to rolling on I would been running it every week. Now once get the coffer I will never run it again because don't want remember all lost rolls from it. Bet in just over month raid will be totally dead from them burning out everyone from it trying to get there 2b outfit.
    It would not be dead that fast, people would still be doing it to get coins for upgrades and it is in the raid roulette.
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  5. #245
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    First of all the raid really isnt hard or difficult.
    Second of all I dont think they should take the possibitly that people might suffer from sort of burn out anymore into account than they're already doing, for example by giving us weekly lookouts (which serves both as a means to make sure people dont burn through content to fast aswell as preventing burn out on top of making sure content still gets queued for a week after release giving late-comers a shot at it too)
    Third of all you could have spaced those runs out over a couple of days, weeks or even months - it was your choice to do this right now, at a time where people are still learning and arent overgeared, making runs take longer than they will in 2-3 weeks.
    Fourth of all... they have an intrest in people running this more than once, even more than once a week to keep queues going and giving people "something to do (that offers a reward)" - seems to be working perfectly.

    Seriously, stop whining about a problem you created for yourself by the way you're approaching this because you need to have things right this minute.
    Bet you already have to set if you do how many runs did you do to get it. Raid will die just like eureka and Diadem did and you act like ones don't have right put in forums what they think.
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenoSamurai View Post
    It would not be dead that fast, people would still be doing it to get coins for upgrades and it is in the raid roulette.
    Accept for those that already have there gear maxed out from Eden raids and don't need them anymore. That coin just went into my chocobo bag maybe I will use it someday or just get tossed.
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  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Bet you already have to set if you do how many runs did you do to get it. Raid will die just like eureka and Diadem did and you act like ones don't have right put in forums what they think.
    The raid isn't going to die, calm down. People are still doing the 24 man raids from Heavensward in this day and age.
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    To add to this, If you really wanna farm the regular gear glams, it would probably be easier to just wait until there is no lockout on it. Get all of it in a couple weeks, or less. Just down to the amount of time you would want to put into it. Could probably win other sets by just greeding at that point too.
    It's a bit hit or miss I think. When the gear unlocks, you can get more than one per week.

    But so can everyone else in the raid then. And you may get more people rolling on everything that drops just because, where as now people are more careful on what they roll for because of the restriction. So you can roll on more things, but so can everyone else.

    I feel a bit sorry for Aiming dps it seemsl ike there's always at least three of them in a given raid, often 2 more or more dancers, at least in the groups I've gotten.
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  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Bet you already have to set if you do how many runs did you do to get it. Raid will die just like eureka and Diadem did and you act like ones don't have right put in forums what they think.
    Nope, dont have it - did one run so far and looking really forward to do more with a relaxed pace over the next couple of weeks since I really enjoyed the fights and specially the music so I have no intention of burning myself out over one glamour-set here and runing fun and enjoyable content for myself out of a lack of patience. To be really honest: I tried it on and dont think the chestpiece looks to great on my Roegadyn. Really like the boots though, but until I get my hands on them, I'm happy with all my other glamour-options and wont ruin a part of the game I enjoy over some new pixels.

    And yes, the raid will die down eventually but that doesnt mean they cant take measures to ensure that it stays alive as long as possible. Eureka died eventually, yes - but it would have died a lot faster if they didnt put a lot of incentives into it and made the relic-weapon a grind-fest instead of just a quest-reward for unlocking Eureka. You seem to be one of the people who enjoyed Eureka for the content itself - while a LOT of people only did it to get their relic-weapon, which profited you, since it provided you with people who were willing to grind the hell out of that content (way more than the ~8 hours you put into this raid so far) only for the relic-weapon while not really enjoying the content all that much.
    Now you're at the other side of the table: Running this content mainly because you want a reward so other people who might actually enjoy it get the needed bodies to fill the slots.

    Sure, speak your mind - but it would help your cause if you'd be able to see the reason this is the way it is and didnt start this literally the moment the raid dropped. I would be a lot more understanding after 8 weeks of no gear than 8 runs... and again: It was your choice to burn out over this on day one...
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  10. #250
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    yep the raid will die then they'll just put it in mog station for 20 bucks.
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