For Love of my Wife

[Beelhi]

With the risk of sounding harsh, the information is out there. A simple google search and your wife would have known about the relocation requirements. Yes it sucks, and yes i would want more furnishing slots aswell (especially in Mansions and Gardens) but people still need to learn to do some research, especially when they care so much about it. Even searching for relocation on the Lodestone gives you information.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Relocation

If it gives you any hope, pictures released of Ishgard restorations look like Housing Wards so if we're lucky we will be getting Ishgard Housing at some point where your wife can hopefully relocate to a Mansion.

[GoldenVoice]

With the risk of sounding harsh, the information is out there. A simple google search and your wife would have known about the relocation requirements. Yes it sucks, and yes i would want more furnishing slots aswell (especially in Mansions and Gardens) but people still need to learn to do some research, especially when they care so much about it. Even searching for relocation on the Lodestone gives you information.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Relocation

If it gives you any hope, pictures released of Ishgard restorations look like Housing Wards so if we're lucky we will be getting Ishgard Housing at some point where your wife can hopefully relocate to a Mansion.

Yeah i get that but she assumed from her experience going from small to medium. Its also reasonable to expect that when upgrading to a larger plot there shouldn't be any issue with items transferring without issue. She knows about the Ishgard housing but without prior knowledge of the lay out its not the same. Running in blind is just another frustration for her. AS i said she has a hard time controlling her right hand and clicking and moving her avatar around can be difficult if shes having a bad day. Not to mention , its Ishgard, for all we know its going to be cold and bleak and she likes the bright and vibrant look of Shirogane and the Lavender beds. Even members in her FC found it surprising though a few did fill her in on what happen most didn't know about the storage prerequisite for the same reason she didn't. it just doesn't seem right when upgrading to a larger plot why there should be an issue with the items transferring over automatically. And if I may defend my wife's mistake one last time, it seems a common sense thing for the devs to simplify the matter. IF she had lost out on the plots simply cause she didn't et there before someone else that would have been fine. But then she would have also had the frustrating task of replacing all her housing items back to the way she had it before storing for the move which would take hours. To make someone have to go trough all that is short sighted. the system should be set up so a person can upgrade to a plot have their items store or just randomly set automatically so that if they end up not moving cause they cant get to their desired plot they dot have to have the herculean task of resetting their house back in order which, for many, took hours if not days to set up the way they want.

[Beelhi]

Yeah i get that but she assumed from her experience going from small to medium. Its also reasonable to expect that when upgrading to a larger plot there shouldn't be any issue with items transferring without issue. She knows about the Ishgard housing but without prior knowledge of the lay out its not the same. Running in blind is just another frustration for her. AS i said she has a hard time controlling her right hand and clicking and moving her avatar around can be difficult if shes having a bad day. Not to mention , its Ishgard, for all we know its going to be cold and bleak and she likes the bright and vibrant look of Shirogane and the Lavender beds. Even members in her FC found it surprising though a few did fill her in on what happen most didn't know about the storage prerequisite for the same reason she didn't. it just doesn't seem right when upgrading to a larger plot why there should be an issue with the items transferring over automatically. And if I may defend my wife's mistake one last time, it seems a common sense thing for the devs to simplify the matter. IF she had lost out on the plots simply cause she didn't et there before someone else that would have been fine. But then she would have also had the frustrating task of replacing all her housing items back to the way she had it before storing for the move which would take hours. To make someone have to go trough all that is short sighted. the system should be set up so a person can upgrade to a plot have their items store or just randomly set automatically so that if they end up not moving cause they cant get to their desired plot they dot have to have the herculean task of resetting their house back in order which, for many, took hours if not days to set up the way they want.

I understand that. They could have added the information again to the patch notes but still, maybe it's just me, doing research seems normal to me.
Another thing about Ishgard Housing (if it happens) is that people will relocate so Mansions in the old areas might open up.
Having to put back all your furniture is a pain, so i can only imagine how hard it is for your wife. But had she relocated she would have had to furnish an entire mansion. I believe they mentioned something about why they cannot save the locations of furniture, even in the same sized house. Something something server limitations, as usual :/

[GoldenVoice]

I understand that. They could have added the information again to the patch notes but still, maybe it's just me, doing research seems normal to me.
Another thing about Ishgard Housing (if it happens) is that people will relocate so Mansions in the old areas might open up.
Having to put back all your furniture is a pain, so i can only imagine how hard it is for your wife. But had she relocated she would have had to furnish an entire mansion. I believe they mentioned something about why they cannot save the locations of furniture, even in the same sized house. Something something server limitations, as usual :/

I wasn't meaning locations of furniture. when she relocated from the small to medium it was all just in a pile, so to speak, on the main floor. same happen with me if i remember correctly. Even then it doesn't seem far fetched to have the system make it that it stored items straight into a persons storage if need be. And as for her having to decorate the large plot, had she gotten it, that would have been fun for her. She was all excited cause she said she wanted to make a moogle themed BnB with a sweet shot and boutique on the main floor where she was going t sell the crafted clothing items she makes using the mannequins as models. She would have had fun for days setting that up. She is a fan of the SIM's game and that's how she views this. But having to reset all her items in her home to where it was? that would have been tedious and frustrating for her because shes such a perfectionist and trying to line up everything exactly how she like is would have upset her. So as you can see there is a big difference between how she would have handled the large plot as appose to having to reset her house as it was when she had to reset her lawn after trying to store her items trying to rush back to get a large plot it took her a few hours cause she started shaking a lot the stress of the situation took its toll on her.
It would have been nice to have a reminder from the patch notes. she reads those. But woulda coulda shoulda. the point is the plot she wanted she got to and was there for some time before someone else took it. the series of events that worked in her favor to get their first may not ever happen again and because of a short sited system that was in place she was cheated. It just seems like common sense to simplify for the player the move system. And your forgetting that my wife was non stop fund raising for three weeks. she didn't have time for much anything else. how many people you know in the game can manage to raise 53 million in three weeks? i honestly didn't think she could do it. but she did. That alone was a pretty impressive thing and she had a right to feel cheated her prize.

[Beelhi]

I wasn't meaning locations of furniture. when she relocated from the small to medium it was all just in a pile, so to speak, on the main floor. same happen with me if i remember correctly. Even then it doesn't seem far fetched to have the system make it that it stored items straight into a persons storage if need be. And as for her having to decorate the large plot, had she gotten it, that would have been fun for her. She was all excited cause she said she wanted to make a moogle themed BnB with a sweet shot and boutique on the main floor where she was going t sell the crafted clothing items she makes using the mannequins as models. She would have had fun for days setting that up. She is a fan of the SIM's game and that's how she views this. But having to reset all her items in her home to where it was? that would have been tedious and frustrating for her because shes such a perfectionist and trying to line up everything exactly how she like is would have upset her. So as you can see there is a big difference between how she would have handled the large plot as appose to having to reset her house as it was when she had to reset her lawn after trying to store her items trying to rush back to get a large plot it took her a few hours cause she started shaking a lot the stress of the situation took its toll on her.
It would have been nice to have a reminder from the patch notes. she reads those. But woulda coulda shoulda. the point is the plot she wanted she got to and was there for some time before someone else took it. the series of events that worked in her favor to get their first may not ever happen again and because of a short sited system that was in place she was cheated. It just seems like common sense to simplify for the player the move system. And your forgetting that my wife was non stop fund raising for three weeks. she didn't have time for much anything else. how many people you know in the game can manage to raise 53 million in three weeks? i honestly didn't think she could do it. but she did. That alone was a pretty impressive thing and she had a right to feel cheated her prize.

Yes she has a right to be upset. I have also had a house taken from me because I was one of those with launcher issues when they released shirogane (plus at that time houses showed as empty when in reality someone had already bought the house, the server just didnt want to update and show it as taken). It felt unfair and I felt cheated. The difference with your wife is that she missed information. Sure, information that they could have added in the patch notes but still out there for anyone to find.

And like I said before, IF Ishgard housing releases people will relocate and Mansions will open up.

Regarding items, I don't remember if my furniture was in the storage when i relocated or in a pile, but if it was in a pile its is stupid yes.

In the end there is alot of things they can do to make housing better but as of now it seems they're only trying to put a bandaid on it by releasing a few new wards every now and then.

[GoldenVoice]

I'll tell you something else though that I find frustrating, when this happened and after she got some rest I suggested to her that she take a break from the game. And what she said rang true, She said it would be pointless unless she planned on giving up the game entirely because she didn't want to pay a monthly fee for a game shes not paying and because of the housing rules they have set up now if anyone tries to step away from the game for more then 30 days they loose their house. So everyone is in effect held hostage to remain subscribed to the game paying monthly fees or face loosing the house and everything in it. depending on how long you are gone. She also reminded me that she and I, during the Mog Station sale, spent about 100$ on mounts minions, and in her case, decorations and outfits, and it would all be a waste if she stopped playing and it frustrates her. I really cant blame her for that feeling. And that's another thing, there's new housing items in the game and on mogstation and she would like to get them but she has no room to use them. You'd think SE would want to promote more purchases of their online items for more profit by increases the item cap in the houses or provide more large plots so more players can get those larger houses for more items to be placed. Frankly id like to see a ward of only medium and large housing. Most people want these larger houses in the first place and if a player is willing to put in time and effort to raise the money they should have the opportunity to get those larger houses. Considering that Ishgard is all about the noble houses wards with medium and large houses only would make alot of sense.

[Beelhi]

I'll tell you something else though that I find frustrating, when this happened and after she got some rest I suggested to her that she take a break from the game. And what she said rang true, She said it would be pointless unless she planned on giving up the game entirely because she didn't want to pay a monthly fee for a game shes not paying and because of the housing rules they have set up now if anyone tries to step away from the game for more then 30 days they loose their house. So everyone is in effect held hostage to remain subscribed to the game paying monthly fees or face loosing the house and everything in it. depending on how long you are gone. She also reminded me that she and I, during the Mog Station sale, spent about 100$ on mounts minions, and in her case, decorations and outfits, and it would all be a waste if she stopped playing and it frustrates her. I really cant blame her for that feeling. And that's another thing, there's new housing items in the game and on mogstation and she would like to get them but she has no room to use them. You'd think SE would want to promote more purchases of their online items for more profit by increases the item cap in the houses or provide more large plots so more players can get those larger houses for more items to be placed. Frankly id like to see a ward of only medium and large housing. Most people want these larger houses in the first place and if a player is willing to put in time and effort to raise the money they should have the opportunity to get those larger houses. Considering that Ishgard is all about the noble houses wards with medium and large houses only would make alot of sense.

I agree that the "pause" time is way too short. I think people should be able to take a 3 month break without losing their house.
I actually just had a discussion with a friend earlier about money spent and "it would be wasted"....basically the money is already spent and "wasted" so there is no point to fret about it, but I do understand where you're coming from.
I would love wards with more Mansion and Mediums but I doubt they will ever change how housing works :c

[Besame]

I'll tell you something else though that I find frustrating, when this happened and after she got some rest I suggested to her that she take a break from the game. And what she said rang true, She said it would be pointless unless she planned on giving up the game entirely because she didn't want to pay a monthly fee for a game shes not paying and because of the housing rules they have set up now if anyone tries to step away from the game for more then 30 days they loose their house. So everyone is in effect held hostage to remain subscribed to the game paying monthly fees or face loosing the house and everything in it. depending on how long you are gone. She also reminded me that she and I, during the Mog Station sale, spent about 100$ on mounts minions, and in her case, decorations and outfits, and it would all be a waste if she stopped playing and it frustrates her. I really cant blame her for that feeling. And that's another thing, there's new housing items in the game and on mogstation and she would like to get them but she has no room to use them. You'd think SE would want to promote more purchases of their online items for more profit by increases the item cap in the houses or provide more large plots so more players can get those larger houses for more items to be placed. Frankly id like to see a ward of only medium and large housing. Most people want these larger houses in the first place and if a player is willing to put in time and effort to raise the money they should have the opportunity to get those larger houses. Considering that Ishgard is all about the noble houses wards with medium and large houses only would make alot of sense.

As I get older, I find I am not the avid dungeon runner I once was 20 years ago and the housing here frustrates me. Hubby and I still play here but we also found a farming game called "Farm Together" a few months ago that might be attractive to your wife. It is fun and relaxing and she can farm and decorate to her heart's content I downloaded it from Steam, it is not expensive and has xtra content you can buy cheap if you wish or simply use what they have plus the free updates and events they supply. You guys can also visit each others farms and help out. May be worth a look. Good luck to you both.

[GoldenVoice]

With the risk of sounding harsh, the information is out there. A simple google search and your wife would have known about the relocation requirements. Yes it sucks, and yes i would want more furnishing slots aswell (especially in Mansions and Gardens) but people still need to learn to do some research, especially when they care so much about it. Even searching for relocation on the Lodestone gives you information.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Relocation

If it gives you any hope, pictures released of Ishgard restorations look like Housing Wards so if we're lucky we will be getting Ishgard Housing at some point where your wife can hopefully relocate to a Mansion.

I was just looking at the site you sent and Im confused. From what i read it says according to this it says the items were supposed to be put automatically in storage and that's where they could be found?! So why couldn't she relocate?

"Upon relocation, placed furnishings including those normally discarded after removal will be put in a storeroom at the destination plot. See below for further details about storerooms.

While the limit of storerooms is normally dependent on plot size, the limit for all plots will temporarily increase as follows to accommodate relocation:

Indoor Furnishings: 400 Items
Outdoor Furnishings: 40 Items
Provided that the numbers of furnishings is within these limits, the relocation can be completed even if they exceed the storage limits of the new location. The furnishings will be temporarily kept in the storeroom of the new plot. The furnishing storage limits when relocating are the same as the placement limits for a large estate hall. Therefore, if a player relocates immediately after patch 4.1 and does not use the storeroom prior to the relocation being completed, it is not possible to exceed the limits, regardless of the size of the estate hall."

So according to this she shouldn't have been prevented from relocating cause of her furniture? I don't understand?