Nier raid 2b outfit rant.

[KitingGenbu]

So basicaly don't say anything and take the game as granted and hope for the devs to implement QoL magicaly ?

You got me! I think this system sucks. So what's the play here exactly? You, me and a handful of others on this forum rally and keep posting about our distain over a 7-ish year old system. Writing long blog posts about how it can be improved so we can get those pretty vanity items in a less luck driven system? Here's the problem. Unless there's a vastly wider margin than a handful that are all in sync with us about this system and the ways it can improve, it won't. You don't think there's threads on here about people still trying for the Puff of Darkness minion?

There are far bigger issues SE needs to address vs someone complaining about having to compete against 23 others for a vanity item that they have 3 chances at compared to the one shot people had for at least 6 years up to this point. And as others have said before, this whole thing becomes an even more non-issue to the masses as time goes on. This seems to be something you're not really understanding. You pay to have access to this game. A lot of people aren't making this an issue so if you're the odd-man out, that's unfortunate. You either adjust or move on. I'm not saying dont post your grievances, just dont expect the seas to part either just because its something important to YOU and nothing is being done about it. Just be thankful its not like WoW or for sure FFXI. Some people have been farming for Invincible for a decade and still no luck.

Also you never answered what exactly you're going to be doing with this outfit after you get it.

Yeah....exactly what I said....

[Hysterior]

It is only an issue if you want this outfit NOW.
Running this every week and later doing your Alliance roulette, you will end up having it at some point.
Relax, it is cosmetics and you are better off not looking like everybody else.

[Lloyd777]

I like to collect glamours and mix different items from differents sets so this 2b sets is really cool for that.

I don't mind having it in 3 months If I know I could get it guaranteed in 3 months (like need 5 weekly token or plus from the raid to get it).

The problem is I don't know when I will get it : maybe I will get it today, or tomorrow or in 1 year or in 3 years with the moogle tokens
(because let's face it, the minions raid with moogle tokens was basically pity bones) and that really the part that bothers me.

[Reynhart]

The problem is I don't know when I will get it : maybe I will get it today, or tomorrow or in 1 year or in 3 years with the moogle tokens

You will run it till the end of ShadowBringers to upgrade your various tome gear anyway, it's not that big of a deal if you don't have that in a week. The only thing that they have to make sure is that you can't roll it if you already have it, like the minions.

[Kobalos]

I rolled a 99 on my first run, its um something on my male aura XD But aye 3 chests don't seems alot but as time goes by it will get a lot easier to get.

[Tsunenori]

You got me! I think this system sucks. So what's the play here exactly?

You leave your feedback about things you don't like. Pretty straightforward.

There are far bigger issues SE needs to address vs someone complaining about having to compete against 23 others for a vanity item that they have 3 chances at compared to the one shot people had for at least 6 years up to this point.

Like I said earlier, doing one thing does not preclude other things from happening.

And as others have said before, this whole thing becomes an even more non-issue to the masses as time goes on. This seems to be something you're not really understanding.

I understand that perfectly. I also don't like it existing to begin with, and have said as such and laid out my reasoning why. Again, this isn't binary.

You pay to have access to this game. A lot of people aren't making this an issue so if you're the odd-man out, that's unfortunate. You either adjust or move on.

Nowhere did I say anything different either. In fact, in my second post, I said the following:

I just don't find it acceptable personally. If others do then I guess more power to them.

I'm not saying dont post your grievances, just dont expect the seas to part either just because its something important to YOU and nothing is being done about it. Just be thankful its not like WoW or for sure FFXI. Some people have been farming for Invincible for a decade and still no luck.

It's funny you mention that. I have extremely stupid luck with mount drops in WoW. I've had bad luck with loot in any game I've played and in any other fashion, but the mount gods in WoW have blessed me. Well, except for Mimiron's Head. Maybe some day.

Also you never answered what exactly you're going to be doing with this outfit after you get it.

It's not my kind of glamour personally. My attachment to NieR is more emotional. At the risk of getting too personal on a forum, I beat Ending E the day after my father died. Taro-san's message of perseverance and struggle against all odds and in reaching out to find help in others had me ugly crying something awful. My grievance isn't really 2B's armor. I just really dislike these systems, as I stated before, and hate to see this becoming more of a thing.

For the record, I'm not like all upset here getting mad at you or something. Whoever you are, person behind the avatar, we're cool. I just didn't like some of the arguments you threw out earlier, and still don't really like the whole "be glad" angle you're coming from. But like I said I'm just voicing my opinion on a system here and that's all there is to it.

[JohnnyDevo]

I'm not personally seeing the issue, here. At least with the coffers.

I saw someone mention "make it 1 per party", but what difference does that make?

With 3 coffers in 24 people, the math gets more complicated (and I'm not talking 3 divided by 24), but ultimately remains the same. Long story short, if everyone rolls on everything, the odds of you getting at least one coffer is roughly 12%. Literally. That's just a miniscule fraction short of 1 in 8.

So my question becomes... why the complaints on that front? The coffer is something you can run the raid as many times as you want, and you're guaranteed what amounts to a 1 in 8 chance every single time you run it. For a coffer containing nothing less than the full outfit. What other content offers that kind of forgiving loot system?

[wereotter]

I rolled a 99 on my first run, its um something on my male aura XD But aye 3 chests don't seems alot but as time goes by it will get a lot easier to get.

I had hoped it would be the model of clothes 9S wears on male toons since the raid gear changes based off that. I had no idea it’s still a frilly dress until I tried it on after seeing someone else wearing it.

[Maero]

I agree with Fhaerron from the first page on his/her suggestions. I always pass on everything except for what i really want and wait a bit (not like 10 mins or more that some people do) and sometimes it helps.
At least in my mind it does, lol :/

[Lloyd777]

I'm not personally seeing the issue, here. At least with the coffers.

I saw someone mention "make it 1 per party", but what difference does that make?

With 3 coffers in 24 people, the math gets more complicated (and I'm not talking 3 divided by 24), but ultimately remains the same. Long story short, if everyone rolls on everything, the odds of you getting at least one coffer is roughly 12%. Literally. That's just a miniscule fraction short of 1 in 8.

So my question becomes... why the complaints on that front? The coffer is something you can run the raid as many times as you want, and you're guaranteed what amounts to a 1 in 8 chance every single time you run it. For a coffer containing nothing less than the full outfit. What other content offers that kind of forgiving loot system?

If it's per party you could run it 8 time with the same party and you are sure to have 1 chest per person in your party.
It's a lot easier to gather the same 8 people to run 8 times the raid than to gather the same 24 people.