Nier raid 2b outfit rant.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Once get the 2b outfit not running it ever again not when only getting ilvl 460 gear from it. You can craft ilvl 450 gear and upgrade it to 460 now why giving suck low ilvl gear for really hard raid. We should be getting ilvl 475 gear from it not 460. Aiming head piece got just shb tanks head piece with a blindfold to it. I have same hood as it in my glamour dress for my tank just without the blindfold to it.

The raid is super easy tho...

Nothing about the mechanics is all that difficult, it gives you hints as to everything about to happen. Orbonne was harder. Lighthouse was harder.

[SturmChurro]

The raid is super easy tho...

Nothing about the mechanics is all that difficult, it gives you hints as to everything about to happen. Orbonne was harder. Lighthouse was harder.

The problem is the length. Even just doing the 3 runs I did today took like half the afternoon.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The problem is the length. Even just doing the 3 runs I did today took like half the afternoon.

New 24mans are always like that though, its been that way since labyrinth.

[SturmChurro]

New 24mans are always like that though, its been that way since labyrinth.

Yeah, but you have a raid with desirable gear for once. Especially the outfit coffer. More people will be rolling on everything, even greeding (though nobody will probably win greed rolls for a few weeks) rather than passing on most just for the coin. People with the outfit are still able to roll on the coffer as well, inflating a problem, though I would expect that for the first week even if it was some kind of lockout the chance of winning would be the same, since everyone new would still be trying to get it.

[hynaku]

The raid is super easy tho...

Nothing about the mechanics is all that difficult, it gives you hints as to everything about to happen. Orbonne was harder. Lighthouse was harder.

No its not easy not when my rdm had to raise all the healers and 2 tanks because they was all dead. second boss only 6 of team a was alive when it died all rest of the alliance all dead and your telling me its easy don't think so. I see to many deaths for it to even be considered to be easy. when take hour and half of your time to not get one items from it makes you really want run ever again. When only get to play few hours each day. Pretty sure it will be nerfed hard soon. 2 times I ran it and both times got nothing think the average is over 200 deaths per run.

[Duskane]

Difficulty is subjective
But i found this raid rather tame alot of room to recover and fix it up

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

No its not easy not when my rdm had to raise all the healers and 2 tanks because they was all dead. second boss only 6 of team a was alive when it died all rest of the alliance all dead and your telling me its easy don't think so. I see to many deaths for it to even be considered to be easy. when take hour and half of your time to not get one items from it makes you really want run ever again. When only get to play few hours each day. Pretty sure it will be nerfed hard soon. 2 times I ran it and both times got nothing think the average is over 200 deaths per run.

Yes it is easy. Just because people can't dodge mechanics with tells doesn't mean it isn't easy. Also, its day one. ITS ALWAYS BAD ON DAY ONE IN ALLIANCE RAIDS. WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET THIS!

[Theodric]

My group didn't wipe on a single boss, so it was pretty smooth. People did die, though it wasn't anything we couldn't recover from. I wouldn't consider it to be super difficult but luckily it isn't as easy as Void Ark.

With that said, none of the gear really interests me so I just passed on the gear. I'm only really after the cards and minion.

[Vahlnir]

Difficulty is subjective
But i found this raid rather tame alot of room to recover and fix it up

Yeah, just went through there myself about a half hour ago. There was a lot of people eating the floor (including myself at times) but we only had 2 wipes. The first was at the 2nd boss, and the 2nd was at the last boss. We then proceeded to completely destroy them. It took some time, but eventually everything fell over. I thought it was fun, though slightly chaotic. As you said, difficulty is subjective. But I, too, feel that it wasn't all that hard with a little patience.

[Tsunenori]

There's no reason for the coffers to be an alliance roll. They could have easily made it one per party and you'd still have sour luck win out most runs, but the odds wouldn't be awful. I mean it drops three coffers anyway, just... why?

I can't help but feel cynical about why they'd make you compete against the entire alliance. Also the bit where people who have it can roll on it anyway is really stupid.

IMO it's a particularly sour mark given so many in the community have been wishing for it for so long and no other crossover required sheer dumb luck for the thing you wanted. I hope they'll consider changing it to a party lot.