How much of a bonus to BLU skill acquisition would it take for you to attempt it

[ForteNightshade]

I would never be doing these things synced even if the learn rate was 100%.

I don't have a problem with learn rates in this game. Anyone who thinks it's difficult to learn spells in this game hasn't played FFXI blue mage.

Why would I care what FFXI's learn rate was? This isn't FFXI.

No one's claiming it's difficult to learn abilities. They just don't see any fun in spamming old Primals upwards of 100+ times.

[Fynlar]

Why would I care what FFXI's learn rate was? This isn't FFXI.

This game is nevertheless influenced and inspired by FFXI. Comparisons are inevitable. And it doesn't change the fact that anyone who thinks it's difficult in this game doesn't know what real difficulty is. The same thing can be said for anyone who thinks we're strapped for inventory space in this game. Compared to many other games (FFXI included, especially old-school FFXI) inventory space is outright generous in this game.

No one's claiming it's difficult to learn abilities.

Aside from the fact that I very much have heard people say that it is (even though I disagree personally), the heart of the topic at hand revolves all around the (supposed) difficulty of learning BLU spells.

If nobody thought it was hard to begin with, nobody would give a damn about synced duties giving a 100% learn rate. If the majority felt it WAS hard to begin with, more people might care.

[Silica-chan]

As long as I can get them in an unsync party I will just do that.
If they increase the rate for synced BLUs only parties that's great I'm sure alot of people will try that out. I for myself take a guaranteed unsync win with a chance to get the skill over the stress of doing synced ex fights with BLU only parties.

[hynaku]

Could see ones being blu in pvp and use final sting and self destruct on players and nodes. Blue Mages also need a real weapon and not one that has zero stats to it. Can't even put any materia on there weapon.

[ForteNightshade]

Aside from the fact that I very much have heard people say that it is (even though I disagree personally), the heart of the topic at hand revolves all around the (supposed) difficulty of learning BLU spells.

If nobody thought it was hard to begin with, nobody would give a damn about synced duties giving a 100% learn rate. If the majority felt it WAS hard to begin with, more people might care.

Difficult in the sense it is time consuming and obnoxious not actually difficult.

People simply don't want to spam synced duties, especially not for content they've likely already beaten into the ground. I suppose some might think so but that's irrelevant when most just don't want to run Shiva EX 100 times.

[Fynlar]

Difficult in the sense it is time consuming and obnoxious not actual difficult.

Isn't that what passes for difficulty nowadays in video games?

[hynaku]

Most don't have hours of play time to try for one spell. To learn titans skill to me over 150 runs to finally get it. Percentage is way to low for learning.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Thats going to be interesting. I mean most BLU died on Extreme when unsynced. Chances of getting spells better be 100%.

Well yeah. Unsynced Level 50 Blue Mage in Level 50 content is still a Level 50 Blue Mage in Level 50 content.

[AngelCheese77]

If they give us a chance to use DF and not wait around for others, I don't care the chance. I got a BLU with so little skills cause players seem to have gotten tired of it.

[Nighthawky2010]

For BLU-only, synced and without echo?

100% and not a nanofraction less than that.

At the very least, if it's not practically guaranteed, I'll probably stick to the unsynced farm PFs just like last time.

While I did enjoy doing all-BLU dungeons the last time BLU was alive for a week, and even on one occasion all of the Crystal Tower raids, none of those had EX mechanics. Pug groups have trouble doing HW Extremes even unsynced at 80, I don't have a lot of faith in it being a more time-efficient method for farming spells unless a coordinated static is doing it. An unsynced group can probably get like 20 clears in by the time an all-BLU party is done progging Sephirot so unless learning the spells synced is guaranteed or nearly so, I don't foresee it being viable for skill acquisition.

For fun tho? Absolutely! I love all-BLU parties. I'll definitely try it, I'm just not expecting to get any spells that way.

I think the biggest reason why BLU's lifespan is so short is the fact they insist on throwing it into party content and the party content gets rushed for the first week because nobody wants to be left out by the time the BLU hype dies off and parties become impossible to find... It should always have been a solo job with the option to do Squadrons, Palace of the Dead and use Duty Finder for low-level dungeons and trials. It wouldn't have made it a real job but would at least give BLUs some degree of long-term usability.

I definitely agree with the solo job. Thats what it was meant for at the release of BLU. Squadrons & PotD would have been perfect for Blu. especially with Squadrons. Add more dungeons in the Squadron Mission w/ the monsters you need to learn spells from, same for PotD. But doing extremes or other dungeons to get spells with a party, it was best to just made it a normal job.