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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Obviously there are exceptions, but first you all pushed a lot of the decent tanks out of Duty Finder.

    "You're going too fast, stop or I won't heal you"
    "Pull more, wtf y r u so slow"
    "Wtf tank hold aggro" (died to untankable add or random target mechanic)
    "Wtf tank, position the boss right" (failed to avoid first boss in Qitana Ravel)
    (Charges ahead with Sprint pulling mobs - tank is expected to grab, aggro and tank them all regardless of cd's being up)
    (Dps die 6 times over the dungeon. Tank dies once on last boss. "Wtf tank sucks!" Dps kick the tank.

    Second, tanking has devolved into an extremely dull basic dps rotation that does no real damage. Emnity doesn't really exist and you only need cd's occasionally at set intervals. It's boring to tank, there's little to master and not much depth to it.

    So all you're left with who has any interest in the class are players who like super easy because they aren't too good at the game, and that arrogant guy who thinks he's gods gift to PF, does everything wrong and is immune to criticism. Enjoy.
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    tinythinker's Avatar
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    Omi Senu
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    So all you're left with who has any interest in the class are players who like super easy because they aren't too good at the game
    Well, ironically, that does describe me (not too good at the game), but I don't particularly find tanking super easy. I don't have all of the instanced content memorized (where to go, how position bosses, etc.), so I tend to level my tanks with NPCs (hello squadron) when possible (gimme more company seals!) so I don't upset people in the DF by being "one of those" tanks
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    Thanks for helping make the FFXIV community a fun and welcoming place. If you're not sure you have (and you very likely have), make it a point to be patient or helpful the next time you log in so that you can know you've made a difference.

    If you're on the Aether data center, congratulations! I might be your next exciting adventure healer in the Duty Finder. Please look forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Obviously there are exceptions, but first you all pushed a lot of the decent tanks out of Duty Finder.

    "You're going too fast, stop or I won't heal you"
    "Pull more, wtf y r u so slow"
    "Wtf tank hold aggro" (died to untankable add or random target mechanic)
    "Wtf tank, position the boss right" (failed to avoid first boss in Qitana Ravel)
    (Charges ahead with Sprint pulling mobs - tank is expected to grab, aggro and tank them all regardless of cd's being up)
    (Dps die 6 times over the dungeon. Tank dies once on last boss. "Wtf tank sucks!" Dps kick the tank.

    Second, tanking has devolved into an extremely dull basic dps rotation that does no real damage. Emnity doesn't really exist and you only need cd's occasionally at set intervals. It's boring to tank, there's little to master and not much depth to it.

    So all you're left with who has any interest in the class are players who like super easy because they aren't too good at the game, and that arrogant guy who thinks he's gods gift to PF, does everything wrong and is immune to criticism. Enjoy.
    Yes this is issue some people do not consider with the Tanking role.

    Tanks are Key to keeping the group alive and determine the speed of a dungeon run by their choices most of the time but not all Good Tanks will play under the High expectations of always pulling all mobs in 1 run with maxed stats endgame gear set nor react to every single detail of a fight.

    After all we are only human and there are times even good tanks make mistakes or want to take things easy either for personal reasons or because the other members of the group may not be properly geared or experiened yet to handle the high amount of mobs.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 10-27-2019 at 12:03 AM.

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    John Milter
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    Gladiator Lv 78
    I only started playing this game around 3 months ago but when I played WoW I tanked so I haven't been afraid of tanking, but boy are people are so unfriendly in either MMO to tanks. Most people who would make good tanks start playing tank and leveling them and get shit on and it just turns them off of the class. I think my first experience with this was in the temple of Qarn dungeon, the 2nd boss just goes crazy after the first phase and hits whoever he feels like and when I was leveling all 3 of the tanks I'd always run into atleast 3 people who thought it was my fault. It got so bad that I just started reminding people of it even tho I thought it was fairly obvious if you just look at the party list

    I'd disagree that tanking isn't fun because its not interesting, I don't think its any less fun or engaging as a DPS. Saying anyone who has a interest in tanks just like super easy classes isn't really fair to the overall importance a tank has. I don't think its right to devalue tanks
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    Last edited by John_Milter; 10-27-2019 at 10:52 AM.

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    Ryu Saarva
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by John_Milter View Post
    I only started playing this game around 3 months ago but when I played WoW I tanked so I haven't been afraid of tanking, but boy are people are so unfriendly in either MMO to tanks. Most people who would make good tanks start playing tank and leveling them and get shit on and it just turns them off of the class. I think my first experience with this was in the temple of Qarn dungeon, the 2nd boss just goes crazy after the first phase and hits whoever he feels like and when I was leveling all 3 of the tanks I'd always run into atleast 3 people who thought it was my fault. It got so bad that I just started reminding people of it even tho I thought it was fairly obvious if you just look at the party list

    I'd disagree that tanking isn't fun because its not interesting, I don't think its any less fun or engaging as a DPS. Saying anyone who has a interest in tanks just like super easy classes isn't really fair to the overall importance a tank has. I don't think its right to devalue tanks
    I have never seen anyone think that the tank lost enmity during that boss and I have played since 2.0.
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    Dirwen's Avatar
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    Black Widow
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    Seraph
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    I have never seen anyone think that the tank lost enmity during that boss and I have played since 2.0.
    The doom mech on first boss is what gets most new people in that dungeon. At least that is how it was for me.
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    I have never seen anyone think that the tank lost enmity during that boss and I have played since 2.0.
    I've ran into one new group who did. Had to explain to them what the mechanics are. Even showed them how I used Provoke and Shield Lob over and over and couldn't grab the mob's attention, even with my dot as red.
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