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  1. #131
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    spurious_correlator's Avatar
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    Althena Barkbite
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 15
    I think it'd be good for everyone to have min ilvl requirements, including those players themselves to let them know that their current gear doesn't cut it. Assuming that they're really playing in earnest, a lot of them just might not know how important gear is in this game. And if they're trying to skimp on gear on purpose... well I have no sympathy for them either :P

    Just in the past week I've seen a DNC in starter gear in Holminster, a PLD in level 50 class gear in Gubal, and a SAM wearing their starter gear in Shisui. The dungeon runs sucked as much for them as they did for us because they all died repeatedly, and the PLD actually rage quit.
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  2. #132
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    MPNZ's Avatar
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    Nephie Elz
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 100
    Yes, so many trash/paper tanks are literally like cases of players under or just incorrectly geared with like Melee-DPS or Magic-DPS gear. The other half is literally tanks just not even bothering with mechanics or using the cooldowns, and they can just shrug it off because the "content is old/easy"
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  3. #133
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MPNZ View Post
    Yes, so many trash/paper tanks are literally like cases of players under or just incorrectly geared with like Melee-DPS or Magic-DPS gear. The other half is literally tanks just not even bothering with mechanics or using the cooldowns, and they can just shrug it off because the "content is old/easy"
    These tanks always blames the healer for the group wiping. This right here is main reason I quit being a healer. They blame you for the wipes and kick you from party when wasn't your fault.
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  4. #134
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Just got my blm to 80 with 3 gulg runs... the 1st was ok, the 2nd amazing with tank and heal having 475 weps, the final one had a first time sam using the Hoh sword... and oft the sword droped on the last chest >_>

    hoh is 365 compared to 412 or whateever is there current and there are tons of gear on the way...
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  5. #135
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    GojuSuzi's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Cerih Gealai
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 80
    Big issue with min ilvl would be that it'll turn into the Alliance Raid Roulette: folk will queue for their Levelling Roulette with trash gear to get the easy ARR content by not hitting the ilvl requirements for HW+ duties, meaning folk levelling through the later expansion MSQ duties face much longer queues as too many of the random players queueing are ineligible for their dungeon.

    Realistically, if they pop on an ilvl requirement for levelling duties, they'd also need to add a ilvl requirement for the roulette(s) based on the highest dungeon for your level. Want to queue for levelling roulette as level 70? Then you best be equipped for a level 70 duty. Would help avoid the Alliance Raid cheese, too.
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  6. #136
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    Metsonm's Avatar
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    Met Rhukon
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Ran a Holminster just there with a tank and a DPS both rocking a bunch of level 60 gear. Luckily it's only Holminster, so it could have been worse, but the MCH was barely surviving the boss' raidwides.

    Poetics are trivially easy to get, so I wouldn't mind levelling dungeons at least being set to the previous tome set. Like you need at least base Scaevan to run Holminster to Gulg, at least base Shire to run Sirensong to Abania, and base Ironworks for Vigil to Gubal.

    It's not ideal, but it might at least get it drilled in that you need gear upgrades as you go.
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  7. #137
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    Avenger's Avatar
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    Coriander Silverflame
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I am OK with adding ilvl requirements for dungeons and adding the “highest instance you have cleared on this job” ilvl requirement for roulettes.

    Though since I tend to use upgraded poetics gear for 50-59, 60-69, and 70-79 I wouldn’t want the lv59/69/79 dungeons to be higher than the lv50/60/70 upgraded poetics gear.
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    Last edited by Avenger; 10-25-2019 at 01:44 PM.

  8. #138
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    With the release of Patch 5.1, HW, SB, and ShB leveling dungeons now have item level requirements.

    The Dusk Vigil: 100
    Sohm Al: 105
    The Aery: 110
    The Vault: 115
    The Great Gubal Library: 120
    The Sirensong Sea: 240
    Shisui of the Violet Tides: 245
    Bardam's Mettle: 250
    Doma Castle: 255
    Castrum Abania: 260
    Holminster Switch: 370
    Dohn Mheg: 375
    The Qitana Ravel: 380
    Malikah's Well: 385
    Mt. Gulg: 390
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  9. #139
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    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    With the release of Patch 5.1, HW, SB, and ShB leveling dungeons now have item level requirements.
    Could have been higher by 5-10 overall, but at least it will prevent grossly undergeared players from being able to queue.
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  10. #140
    Player
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    Could have been higher by 5-10 overall, but at least it will prevent grossly undergeared players from being able to queue.
    Could have been, but I’m trying not to look the gift horse in the mouth. It’s better than nothing, at least...
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