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    QooEr's Avatar
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    Please show overheal in flying text

    I wish the game told you how much you overhealed. it could be something really simple, such as just adding a (X% overheal) below the flying text like the game already does for parry

    im really sick and tired of seeing healers cast completely useless heals all the time. healing the tank when theyre at like 90% hp, medica 2 when the party barely takes any damage. the list goes on. i know its mostly new healers doing it, and i understand that, but i think healers of all skill levels would vastly improve if they saw just how much their heals are acutally healing and how much goes to waste.
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    KaitoAsaha's Avatar
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    Erotic Humor
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 29
    I'm not exactly a 'new healer' but I tend to especially over heal on WHM when using the blue lillies, so I can get that blood lily faster.
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    Commander_Justitia's Avatar
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    Ash Primordial
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    Paladin Lv 90
    A bit overheal(~25%, depends on fight) is unavoidable, it would send the wrong message. Sometimes a cure III is less time wasted, when e.g. 3 people are low, or are you gonna waste extra gcd and deal less dmg to avoid overheal on five others? No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    A bit overheal(~25%, depends on fight) is unavoidable, it would send the wrong message. Sometimes a cure III is less time wasted, when e.g. 3 people are low, or are you gonna waste extra gcd and deal less dmg to avoid overheal on five others? No.
    i know Some overheal is expected especially if you use aoe heals to heal a single target, but youre missing the forest for the trees. everyone benefits from seeing how effective healing is, especially a new healer whos just spamming cure on a nearly full health tank
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    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Allow me to paraphrase the OP:
    "I wish all the healers could be as good at healing as me when I don't play a healer"
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Showing the overheal won't stop most newer healers. Most really new/casual healers don't care about overheal, or even think it's a bad thing, a lot will even just stand there and actively do nothing if they don't need to heal.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Impurrrsive's Avatar
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    Coleo Softpaw
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    Masamune
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    Scholar Lv 80
    How bad can it be if there is overheal? Is this somekind of practice tools?Let them be at peace with their paranoia.

    I fail to understand becoz i rarely see this except in raids or trials when there are 2 healers. New healers mostly just stand there doing nothing if none to heal
    Some healer just don't care or don't know, never play healer in other games where agro management meant everything in dungeon, how i miss this element in ffxiv dungeons... The fear of overheal

    With simplified mechanics for tanks to control agro, I don't see this can be a huge problem anymore. We also lost our enmity reduce kit becoz its not needed anymore. So this tools have lost its significance
    Except it affect the healer mana management and dps output

    For me i heal base on health percentage, choose which spell base on it
    Crit heal will always have some extent of overheal, can't really control it
    I always excog tank before pulls, sometimes it pops on timer end, cant be help but it one of the way that i use to fill faerie gauge
    For now its a waste of resource for dev to address this, let them fix other healer issues
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    Player
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    Qoo Er
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Impurrrsive View Post
    Some healer just don't care or don't know,
    thats kind of what im getting at. you cant fix the former but letting people know would fix the latter. im sure the learning curve would be faster if people just had a little bit more knowledge. eventually good healers realize they can push hp harder than healing the tank at near full health, but im sure if someone just saw "80% overheal" next to every cure ii they cast theyd sooner realize they can spend their mp doing better things
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 100
    I get what you are saying but there are plenty of times when I 'pre-heal' with HoT skills so I can have a safety net for DPSing. Like if you see me apply Medica 2, Regen and Asylum I am about to Holy Spam until Thin Air is done. Is it wasteful? Probably. Do I care? Not really. I like keeping the party topped up so I can have those windows of DPS and people complaining about overheals is not something I want to have to deal with. Especially with healing being the chore that it is now.

    I'd prefer overheals to a 'green dps.' Just saying.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    I was paired with a white mage in The Praetorium when I was on Scholar. I tossed out maybe one heal the entire run not counting Eos using Embrace for 18% overheal. The white mage did nothing but heal and had an 89% overheal at the end. I have never seen an overheal number that high before. I doubt they would have changed their playstyle if they could see overheal numbers on the fly, however. What I wouldn't mind is a post-fight summary that showed your own DPS and overheal stats.
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