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    Nobody's forcing you to do anything. RNG is RNG. If you're not a fan of camping out, then just check back periodically throughout the day. Am I fond of this buying system? No. But this whole "I'm being forced to sit at a house for hours and hours no fair! DX" complaint needs to stop, it's simply not true.
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    It is 100% factual and true the second i stopped spam clicking was the second I lost a house. Yes totally fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForce View Post
    Nobody's forcing you to do anything. RNG is RNG. If you're not a fan of camping out, then just check back periodically throughout the day. Am I fond of this buying system? No. But this whole "I'm being forced to sit at a house for hours and hours no fair! DX" complaint needs to stop, it's simply not true.
    Yet a system that literally forces RNG does that. Is that what you do when you are farming dungeon drops? Spam it over and over till you get what you want. It's literally the ONLY way with a system like this. Luck shouldn't ever be a factor in purchasing house. If I see a plot I should be able to just buy it right then and thier. People overly exaggerated the RMT problem and this has become way worse by miles and it didn't evem get rid of RMT. As the only way to RMT is through the complete broken, timer bypassing plot relocation function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxman09 View Post
    Yet a system that literally forces RNG does that. Is that what you do when you are farming dungeon drops? Spam it over and over till you get what you want. It's literally the ONLY way with a system like this. Luck shouldn't ever be a factor in purchasing house. If I see a plot I should be able to just buy it right then and thier. People overly exaggerated the RMT problem and this has become way worse by miles and it didn't evem get rid of RMT. As the only way to RMT is through the complete broken, timer bypassing plot relocation function.
    Since you've not been playing that long, you should research other posts regarding housing prior to when plot timers were added. Removing it will only allow you to know sooner that you didn't get the house you had your eye on, due to people buying them up, not to live in, not to decorate, but to turn those houses around with a mark up price 4 times what the plot was worth or worse. You have no idea the purpose of those timers, just that you don't like them.

    Camping an item or anything you may want in a mmo (not necessarily something you need) has been around since the beginning of mmo's. Spamming something has too. RMT has been around the same amount of time as well. So, don't act like any of this is something new and only in ffxiv. Please don't act like because you pay, you should have easy access to anything you want in game. Never worked that way before in any mmo and it won't work here. This is not a "needed" item to be able to progress in the game even, so I totally agree, no one is forced to spam a placard for a luxury item the game offers. If you don't like it then don't do it. If you're determine than do it without complaints. If you're going to complain, do your research to know what you're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    Since you've not been playing that long, you should research other posts regarding housing prior to when plot timers were added. Removing it will only allow you to know sooner that you didn't get the house you had your eye on, due to people buying them up, not to live in, not to decorate, but to turn those houses around with a mark up price 4 times what the plot was worth or worse. You have no idea the purpose of those timers, just that you don't like them.
    Since you've not been playing that long, you should research other posts regarding housing prior to when prices were adjusted. The original prices of houses was, on average, higher than the prices players are/were reselling the plots at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    Since you've not been playing that long, you should research other posts regarding housing prior to when prices were adjusted. The original prices of houses was, on average, higher than the prices players are/were reselling the plots at.
    The troll has returned. You should give up all those houses you own too, but oh well. The one who greedily grab up all these houses in a ward speaks since it shines a light your way and no one really listens anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    The troll has returned. You should give up all those houses you own too, but oh well. The one who greedily grab up all these houses in a ward speaks since it shines a light your way and no one really listens anymore.
    We sold the houses lol. Regarding attention, the analytics on our website disagree with you LOL.

    You can stay upset at players reselling houses all you want, but the fact remains that houses being traded between players are in most cases, cheaper than what they used to cost on release. You should leave your tainted judgement at the door if you want to fact check people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    We sold the houses lol. Regarding attention, the analytics on our website disagree with you LOL.

    You can stay upset at players reselling houses all you want, but the fact remains that houses being traded between players are in most cases, cheaper than what they used to cost on release. You should leave your tainted judgement at the door if you want to fact check people.
    I don't give two shakes about your analytics or your website. Many know what you're about and you love to troll anyone about housing and spew nonsense about much of it. But hey they can go look up your previous posts for themselves. It's quite entertaining.

    What is most hilarious is that I wasn't even talking about player trade of plots, but you go on ahead spew whatever nonsense you wish, because this is what you're infamous for anyway, well aside from greediness. Don't expect me to congratulate you on your profit from hoards of houses you owned and say you sold. You deprived quite a few out of owning plots and now do you expect a pat on the back? Sorry no can do little one.
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    Last edited by Arazehl; 10-25-2019 at 02:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForce View Post
    Nobody's forcing you to do anything. RNG is RNG. If you're not a fan of camping out, then just check back periodically throughout the day. Am I fond of this buying system? No. But this whole "I'm being forced to sit at a house for hours and hours no fair! DX" complaint needs to stop, it's simply not true.
    You are right in that no one is forcing me (or anyone) to buy a house in the game. The premise must not have been clear - IF you want a house, which is a feature of the game that yields non-critical benefits to the game.
    My wife and I enjoy playing the game and want to get a house in it. Since getting a house is the goal - we have two options as the system exists - camp out spamming the placard (because if we don't someone else does and we don't get a house, which is the goal) OR use less ethical methods like finding a seller on reddit, joining their FC, paying them to leave the FC, and making the new FC and house our own. Pretty sure that is the kind of behavior SE is trying to discourage with the hidden timer.
    The complaint is 100% valid. Maybe getting gear is your goal. If you had to spam click the entrance to the dungeon in hopes that you'll get one of the rare party openings (which opens on a random timer so getting there early doesn't guarantee you a spot), you'd be blowing up the forums too. I know the analogy falls apart in that dungeons are core to the gameplay where housing is not, but to some, housing is an important part the game. Clearly this is the case or we wouldn't have people sitting in front of the placards for hours on end camping a house. I see them at every house I attempt to get.

    Simply replying to the effect of "stop whining" doesn't do anything to improve the state of housing purchases. SE needs to continue to see people being angry with their broken house buying system or they will not have an incentive to fix it. That is how we provide feedback. If you don't think it's a priority, don't click on these kinds of forum posts.

    To the saying "Don't provide problems, provide solutions": Maybe make the license to a plot a rare drop in a specific dungeon, earn-able through some kind of quest, or reputation with the associated city. There are plenty of other ways to do it to make it both prestigious but still feel like a reasonable system. At least farming a dungeon can be fun, unlike standing at a placard...
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