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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Actually it's not. What it does in reality is encourage developers to create excessive grinds in their game so that people are incentivized to take the cash option instead of putting up with the grind. We see it all the time now in full retail products.

    FFXIV is a full retail product with a subscription fee. We don't need a free-to-play economy on top of that. Stop asking to pay extra for things.
    Here is the thing the cash shop is here and it is here to stay. Sure people will want to fight it, but they cannot stop it. As it stands the cash shop as cosmetic and convenience options. Grinds will always be a thing in gaming especially MMO's and tbh providing an extra convenience on the cash shop would be awesome. Truth be told I rather they just add DoH and DoL jump potions but I personally know that is a far fetched dream so road to 70 buff is best thing.

    You are free to have your pov but even if grinds are made longer due to convenience options point remains they are still pay for convenience options. Also not an sale an aspect of need, simply a desire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Here is the thing the cash shop is here and it is here to stay. Sure people will want to fight it, but they cannot stop it. As it stands the cash shop as cosmetic and convenience options. Grinds will always be a thing in gaming especially MMO's and tbh providing an extra convenience on the cash shop would be awesome. Truth be told I rather they just add DoH and DoL jump potions but I personally know that is a far fetched dream so road to 70 buff is best thing.

    You are free to have your pov but even if grinds are made longer due to convenience options point remains they are still pay for convenience options. Also not an sale an aspect of need, simply a desire.
    Just buy the jump potions then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Just buy the jump potions then.
    If they had jump potions for DoH and DoL I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    If they had jump potions for DoH and DoL I would.
    Those are the easiest classes to level though... You don't need potions for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Those are the easiest classes to level though... You don't need potions for them.
    Never been about need, as mentioned leveling itself is not hard but can be tedious but instead of asking them to make leveling up easier asking for a convenience option to be added at a cost would be nice.

    Overall cannot speak for anyone else but personally I have found DoW and DoM jobs far easier and quicker to level up, yet we have options to bypass that all together at the very least a purchasable buff would require some player input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Here is the thing the cash shop is here and it is here to stay. Sure people will want to fight it, but they cannot stop it. As it stands the cash shop as cosmetic and convenience options. Grinds will always be a thing in gaming especially MMO's and tbh providing an extra convenience on the cash shop would be awesome. Truth be told I rather they just add DoH and DoL jump potions but I personally know that is a far fetched dream so road to 70 buff is best thing.

    You are free to have your pov but even if grinds are made longer due to convenience options point remains they are still pay for convenience options. Also not an sale an aspect of need, simply a desire.
    You can't stop the cash shop but where the playerbase spends its money as a collective decides what kind of cash shop it's going to be. Stable revenue being poured into leveling potions? That's a green light to further experiment in that particular section. Experienced mmo players have seen the inevitable in all these cash shops: they start out reasonable then later become out of hand.

    At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself how much convenience do you want that you're prepared to suffer later repercussions that a cash shop may have on the game? Yes, yes, slippery slope fallacy and all that but one that has had real precedents in any mmo that has a cash shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    You can't stop the cash shop but where the playerbase spends its money as a collective decides what kind of cash shop it's going to be. Stable revenue being poured into leveling potions? That's a green light to further experiment in that particular section. Experienced mmo players have seen the inevitable in all these cash shops: they start out reasonable then later become out of hand.

    At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself how much convenience do you want that you're prepared to suffer later repercussions that a cash shop may have on the game? Yes, yes, slippery slope fallacy and all that but one that has had real precedents in any mmo that has a cash shop.
    Probably a rhetorical question but for me personally as much as possible since the repercussions are only a possibility. Sure, data might favor it from happening, but we cannot be a 100% certain that it will be the case for FFXIV. Personally never been a fan of not doing something due to the possible repercussions or failure. Sure I might kick myself later down the road it goes south, but I probably would also kick myself later for not trying since I would not know what the outcome would be. Though I am an odd ball.
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