Minor Arcana is Unnecessarily Complicated

[Leareaux]

SE,
Can Minor Arcana just work like Play Card but give the targeted player a Lord/Lady effect? If I didn't have to weave 2 OCDs to play 1 effect, that'd be great.

[Crushnight]

This is how minor arcana has always been tap once to get the card(used to be random, now it is set) tap second to use(or play now), Spread was the same, Draw used to be now it is Draw and Play instead.

Always been 2/3 ocds to use cards i don't see the problem because you would have issues with every single draw card effect not just minor arcana if it is about double weaving(also avoid nin/dnc if this is the case). If its about knowing what minor is going to be changing the card into then here is a tip, if it's a melee card it will be Lord, if it's a range card it will be Lady can plan ahead for who the card needs to go onto easier to do than Draw itself.

[Leareaux]

Yeah knowing what is Lord or Lady isnt the issue. That actually plays into my point.

The issue is an archaic system still in place on their 'simplfied' card play. Back then Minor arcana would give you a random card with two different targets. You couldnt play a lord on a player or a lady on a mob. So it made sense that an extra step was needed. Royal Road being used to spread cards consumed the card entirely, so you wouldn't need to play the card for another 30 secs. And even then, it was way more efficient than playing 8 different cards on single players.

When both lord and lady are the same effect, and both need a player target, theres no reason to have it just sit there saying "hey I'm a lord/lady now" if it's played the same way as every other card. It feels even worse during sleeve draw when I already have the seals I need for Div. Not to mention when we factor in redraw.

Just because that's how it's been doesnt mean it's a needlessly inefficient system. I think we could both agree the majority finds the system incredibly clunky. And this would be an easy first step.

[Kimmay]

There are many instances that I'm using minor arcana simply to change a card after drawing, like walking to the next group of enemies or phase changes. I don't want to have to play the card then or be forced to wait until combat begins to do it.

[Leareaux]

There are many instances that I'm using minor arcana simply to change a card after drawing, like walking to the next group of enemies or phase changes. I don't want to have to play the card then or be forced to wait until combat begins to do it.

I'm confused. Factoring in my proposal, couldn't you just hold your current card and then hit Minor Arcana to play a Lord/Lady when you want?

[Brandedblade]

Finally, a decent AST suggestion. outside of potency adjustments this would really be the only thing left to do with the current setup as far as I'm concerned, this would go far to reducing the weaving that needs to be done during Sleeve windows.

[Gemina]

Complicated? I wouldn't say so. It is however, inefficient when you know you're going to minor arcana a draw. Double weaving is fine, especially for AST as other jobs required to double weave such as NIN whose innate skill speed alone can cause some serious gcd clipping issues and botched openers. However, I can never get off a planned minor arcana off between gcds because there are three ogcds involved. There will always be at least one gcd between a drawn card and a played minor arcana card. And here's the conundrum: a minor arcana card requires less thought to play it, because I don't have to pay attention to seals.

I definitely commend for bringing up what I feel is true issue for AST. This is something that makes them have to work harder than what should be necessary. I don't like minor arcana, and never have. Like noct, I don't think it should be scrapped, but definitely reworked. Maybe 6.0.

[Leareaux]

From LL Translations:

AST
- MP consumption for spells will be adjusted
- Potencies are being adjusted as well
- Regarding cards, Minor Arcana will be adjusted so that it reduces unnecessary steps. One such example would be how it will directly apply Lord/Lady instead of making the card into Lord/Lady and then you use it
- Specifics of Collective Unconscious will be changed where executing the skill will bring different effects depending on whether you're in Diurnal (HoT and defense barrier of 10% damage mitigation) and Nocturnal (Instantly grant 10% damage mitigation shield that lasts 20 seconds) will be different depending on which sect you're in

Yessssss

[Brandedblade]

Heck yeah, I'm super excited! Now we'll only need to combine Lightspeed and Sleeve in our opener (to accommodate Redraw) and that will be a decent boost to our versatility with handling movement mechanics.

[RymmraelFalk]

Correct me if I'm wrong (really, please do.) but they way Minor Arcana works now allows you to turn a basic card into a lord/lady and then you are able to hold(or use it) on it while allowing draw to get back on cd. Wouldn't changing it into a instant action from draw limit you? I feel like this is risking wasting a buff and also prolonging draw's cooldown for no actual reason.