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  1. #24561
    Player
    Nononu's Avatar
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    Enenra Hannya
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    I thought I would do some Eden runs this morning as a GNB to make some progress on those mounts.

    Queue into E1 and both the healers are new. I’m a little apprehensive but I think we will be fine, since I ran Eden as healer when it first came out and only died once before all the mechanics just clicked.

    wrong. We made it to add phase only once in 4 or 5 attempts before the vote abandon came. Both healers, without fail, died to pure light every time. Even after explanations & marking the MT so they’d know to follow the group.

    I don’t understand how that can happen. Seeing the mechanics a few times and just not getting it. It’s not even difficult? Eden goes to a corner, stand behind it. It’s pretty simple stuff.
    Even knowing what to do, the one time I ran it with some FC mates, I died to it the two times it popped. I really can find no other explanation except to shout "server ticks", because from my end, it looked like I was behind her with the rest of the raid, but nope. Died to it twice.
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  2. #24562
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    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 97
    After seeing wipes to E1N adds and people still running away from the group with stack markers in E3N i am not even sure what's going on anymore.

    Had a couple Quarn stories.
    First one, is i am doing it via Leveling Roulette on my SMN. Healer is a fresh "Just finished Praetorium and running this for MSQ for the first time" sprout. Tank is "pull every mob in the dungeon at hyper speed". Things end up going pretty much as expected. Bees are not dying fast enough, tank dies, healer dies, i try to rez them, everybody dies. Oh joy. There were a few hiccups, but we cleared it in the end.

    Second one, i decided to level up dragoon and Quarn is the highest dungeon i can access, plus hey Moogle Tomes. I queue for it and and twiddle my thumbs, after a while i say in FC chat, "man, dps queues are so real. It's been 20 minutes". My FC mate replies, "Yeah, same here". My queue pops. I enter Quarn and notice that my FC mate is here. We laugh, tank says that it's his first time tanking Quarn. We explain stuff on the way, run goes super smooth and tank thanks us and says it's was a pleasure running the dungeon with people who know what they are doing. So it all balanced out in the end i guess.
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    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

  3. #24563
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 64
    This just in! According to the dynamic idiotic duo of Girlfriend SCH and Boyfriend DRG, I best better be pulling big even when all my CDs are down, because Girlfriend SCH is a talented healer and can heal through anything, and has experience healing no CD tanks!

    I said nothing further because I didn't want to get vote kicked by the Dynamic Idiotic Duo.

    Lvl 73 dungeon clear time: 60:27
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  4. #24564
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    sakkito's Avatar
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    Meme Unnie
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    After seeing wipes to E1N adds and people still running away from the group with stack markers in E3N i am not even sure what's going on anymore
    You won't believe but E3N wise stack is always more like a question mark. I never know what people are gonna do. I am a whm main (this makes it even more painful). I literally had like 2-3 runs of it where people were running away. I had one very memorable run when we (meh and my friend usually go together as healers) have realised on first run (because we wiped lols) that nobody actually goes to the stack. We have typed in, in chat asking people to stack. First stack came and my stack markered friend realising quickly that they are not even thinking of grouping, decided to commit in game sudoku and run off the platform. I insta rezzed. And that is how we handled that mechanic till the end (because yes, next stack mark came up on me and yes, nobody was stacking) and that was the only possible way for us to clear xD. Towards the end we have even joked in chat that jumping is the proper way of handling the stack marker. And the last person who got the stack marker was the dps (yes, they did not stack originally either) , what did the dps do? YES! SHE HAS JUMPED. /end of story
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  5. #24565
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Last night decided to do one last roulette on my dark nut before going to bed. Got thrown into the vault, party comp was DRK, SCH, BRD, SAM.

    Most of the run things are rather smooth until the bosses. The sam on the first boss stood in the lightballs and ate three stacks of bleed. This should've been a warning sign to me, but no, me being the person that just wanted the last bit of exp to hit 60 before calling it a night, didn't say anything. After the boss, they lag behind and the sch and brd follow me up to the elevator. After a few minutes the sam finally comes, and we get to the second boss.

    Second boss somehow the sam dies after eating a few vul stacks from the first knockback. My second red flag. I check their gear, it's mostly appropriate for the dungeon (a few 53 pieces here and there, but the rest is 55/56 stuff). The sch gets them back up...and I watch them walk into our personal Dome Depot and die. The sch waits to get them back up until a minute later for swiftcast, and we finish up the boss. On our way to the third boss, I start to wonder if this guy even has situational awareness, but I simply decide to chalk it up to bad luck.

    Third boss, the sam decides to stand in the cross-section of some of the ground aoes and immediately goes splat. Third red flag. I ask them what actually killed them, and he replied with something along the lines of 'I don't know, I've never seen this much damage before.' wat? Sch gets him back up, and this somewhat repeats throughout the fight. The chains he didn't seem to be very aware of either whenever he was chained to either the brd or sch.

    Mind you, it takes longer to get Heat Meiser down because the sam didn't seem to understand his class either (timer on dungeon and how long fights took told me the brd was doing more damage than the sam.) as every so often I would see Higabana on bosses, but the dot would drop off and never be reapplied. As such I watched our sch struggle to just keep us up, and it got to the point when the sam died once more that he just simply let him stay there. We down the boss with the three of us, I comm the sch and watch the brd immediately head out. I wanted to tell the sam that he should at least be more aware of dodging, but I was far too tired to type it out properly.

    Whole run took about 30 minutes. A painful amount of time, but I will give that sch insane amount of credit for dealing with a not-very aware dps.
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  6. #24566
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    Anira-chu's Avatar
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    Character
    Arisme Faelysta
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Is "being RDM" suddenly some sort of a condition of being a "bad DPS"?
    I keep getting RDMs in roulettes that just don't AoE, stand around and watch birds or whatever and just... don't do their job? One even tried to convince me they were just standing around, because the "adds dies too fast for their casting" and it "takes time to target something else" or something along that way.
    And the other rdm (and this one was in Akadaemia Anyder) was literally standing in EVERY BAD POSSIBLE. like you got the feeling it was rather a bot, even if they responded to a question, still...
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  7. #24567
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    Nioh's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Nioh Zhafo
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Did leveling roulette with my WHM friend who wanted to level their NIN (I was a WAR) and got Dzemael Darkhold. Our healer was an AST who almost never focused on healing the party and kept pulling more trash even though we were focusing on another group of trash. I was doing small pulls, so we don't die because this AST didn't look like they could handle big pulls. We wiped once because the AST kept pulling mobs from the bottom and didn't AoE heal the party until we were quarter of our health. Needless to say, we commed the DRG with us for being calm this entire time.
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  8. #24568
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    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I queued for Mentor Roulette as SCH and it showed 1/1/2 party when I accepted. I was thinking it was going to be a Dungeon or Guildhest. I ended up at Rathalos EX. I haven't done this as healer (usually used tank when it was current.) There was no first time bonus. With some communication in the chat and following mechanics as they come along, we beat Rathalos in one attempt without any deaths.
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  9. #24569
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Anira-chu View Post
    Is "being RDM" suddenly some sort of a condition of being a "bad DPS"?
    I keep getting RDMs in roulettes that just don't AoE, stand around and watch birds or whatever and just... don't do their job? One even tried to convince me they were just standing around, because the "adds dies too fast for their casting" and it "takes time to target something else" or something along that way.
    And the other rdm (and this one was in Akadaemia Anyder) was literally standing in EVERY BAD POSSIBLE. like you got the feeling it was rather a bot, even if they responded to a question, still...
    RDM has quite a longstanding reputation for having bad players in DF.

    My personal favorite is the Jolt Mage. However I read that someone ran into a Hardcast Mage, that is, not using Jolt at all, but hard casting only Veraero and Verthunder.

    Edit: I reckon this job gets comms rather easily because good ones are so rare, but I can't really confirm that through experience since I haven't touched it in months.
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    Last edited by Rasikko; 10-18-2019 at 03:45 PM.

  10. #24570
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Had an Amurot as a healer where the RDM and tank would spam heals whenever they took any kind of dmg.

    Took an AoE? Vercure. At 80%? Clemency. I took any kind of dmg? Vercure + Clemency.

    I ended up just letting them heal as me and my BLM friend just DPS'd the run took forever to complete even after I told them you'll be fine just DPS, I just don't get why people feel the need to spam heal yourself when you're in 0 danger of dying. Worst part is they said nothing the whole run despite us begging for them to stop healing sigh.
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