Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Moonfish]

I thought I would do some Eden runs this morning as a GNB to make some progress on those mounts.

Queue into E1 and both the healers are new. I’m a little apprehensive but I think we will be fine, since I ran Eden as healer when it first came out and only died once before all the mechanics just clicked.

wrong. We made it to add phase only once in 4 or 5 attempts before the vote abandon came. Both healers, without fail, died to pure light every time. Even after explanations & marking the MT so they’d know to follow the group.

I don’t understand how that can happen. Seeing the mechanics a few times and just not getting it. It’s not even difficult? Eden goes to a corner, stand behind it. It’s pretty simple stuff.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

If they don't know what a stack marker was I'd wager they bought skip potions as at that point even mandatory solo MSQ instances were using that mechanic. Either that or they're lazy.

I'm not really sure how, but it can happen. A friend of mine never found out what a stack marker was until I did Titania with them.

[Noitems]

This is why I enjoy the SB 24-man raids the most. While I sometimes appreciate the swiftness of the ARR raids, I also sometimes find myself bored to death with the zergfest.

Honestly the big reason I enjoy Weeping City, Dun Scaith, and all of the Ivalice ones. The power creep is getting up there like being able to kill Rofocale before the second sand ball, but the whole of that raid is still pretty fine. The nature of those fights really shine as time moves on where it's something you actively have to pay attention to and react with. The Mega Death in Weeping City, Blue/Red panels tiles in Scaith, Falling Towers in Rabanast, Numbers in Lighthouse, and of course TG Cid as a whole. Those are the things I really enjoy since they break up the rush and with the IL sync it allows us to still see those mechs since it's not grossly overpowered.

Big reason I'm excited for the Copied City in like two weeks is to experience that same thrill but around a more proper il.

[Rasikko]

I have not seen King Behemoth meteor mass killings in a very long time now. I have seen one group wipe to amon because they did not stand behind any rocks. Xande and Archon retain thier usual wtf moments with people running from the float mechanic and being blown up by Ancient Flare. Cloud of Darkness has been fine so far... but Cerberus, the lol fest has never stopped.

[NessaWyvern]

This was PF, not DF, but I was in an innocence ex on GNB, and the PLD had tank stance on, I had mine off and I was still catching up to him in aggro. He had better gear than I did too! T^T

[Mhaeric]

I'm not really sure how, but it can happen. A friend of mine never found out what a stack marker was until I did Titania with them.

I have witnessed more than enough people run away from others with a stack marker on them at various levels of end game content that I've long since coined the term "sacrificial <insert player's job here>" for players that do that.

[NessaWyvern]

I have witnessed more than enough people run away from others with a stack marker on them at various levels of end game content that I've long since coined the term "sacrificial <insert player's job here>" for players that do that.

A healer did that in Niddy normal with the stack marker, unfortunately Niddy's stack marker switches to someone else when that person dies since it is a multihit, so one person running from the stack marker killed 4 people. Fun times.

[Mixt]

Yep, and then they blame everyone else when it spirals into a wipe

"Why we wipe? U all retarded lol!" Says the guy who ran away with the Akh Morn stack marker and killed half the party, including both healers.

It's infuriating to have to deal with people like that.

[SerLuke]

This was PF, not DF, but I was in an innocence ex on GNB, and the PLD had tank stance on, I had mine off and I was still catching up to him in aggro. He had better gear than I did too! T^T

Were they just auto attacking?

[Mhaeric]

Were they just auto attacking?

I had a Paladin just a week or two ago that would do just a single AoE attack to get hate on the pack and then single target each mob in the pack one by one cycling through each mob one GCD at a time. I.e. Their combo opening GCD on mob A, second GCD in their combo on mob B, third GCD in their combo on mob C, etc. As a MCH in that run (Stone Vigil iirc) I was constantly sitting at various levels of orange and red aggro on every mob (never green) and everyone in the group would often pull hate off of them in a piecemeal fashion since the Paladin's enmity hold on each mob was so variable. The only time they would use their AoE beyond that initial use was if someone pulled hate off of them and they'd use it once or twice to get it back then go back to their rotating single target damage.

I can only imagine they had read an old guide about using Flash and assumed the new AoE skills worked the same way.