-sigh- Could Hunt Immunity be a thing...?

[MitsukiKimura]

I'd personally skip the old content S ranks and just do Shadowbringers Hunts/S Ranks. That way you don't have people from Cough "Balmung" Pulling instantly and killing it. Takes a good bit for hunts to die and especially on Mud pie in the pixie land. Never seen so many deaths since release of Seriyu extreme back in Stormblood.

[Deceptus]

Don't kid yourself.

People who are serious about hunting use 3rd party tracking websites and chat sources as well as programs that are blatantly against the ToS to identify where they spawn and when they spawn.

If you're not using those same programs you have zero chance of getting in on Hunts, you're at an active disadvantage.

"Hunting" is a joke. You check a website to see what's up, fire up a program and fly around a zone until you hear an audible sound.

[RoyalBeef]

"Hunting" is a joke. You check a website to see what's up,

What? People organizing to keep track of spawns and timers? Outrageous! What is this? An MMO?!

[Saefinn]

What? People organizing to keep track of spawns and timers? Outrageous! What is this? An MMO?!

I see for your quote that you removed the part after comma that references a program that's against TOS that gives an unfair advantage.

It's as though you're purposefully taking it out of context.

[SaberMaxwell]

"Hunting" is a joke. You check a website to see what's up, fire up a program and fly around a zone until you hear an audible sound.

I mean, without the sound it's still kind of a joke. You're not finding its tracks, not learning their feeding habits (what mobs they would generally hang around), not learning their weaknesses, not learning from locals who have seen it what it looks like; the closest you get to any of that is the NPC who gives some base lore about the creature. You're not hunting, you're just running in circles till you find a monster.

[RoyalBeef]

I see for your quote that you removed the part after comma that references a program that's against TOS that gives an unfair advantage.

It's as though you're purposefully taking it out of context.

Yeah because everyone is cheating. No one is hunting without using illegal software. I merely took out the part that is an intentional misrepresentation of hunting, making it look as if everyone does it.

He mentioned those websites twice, so clearly trying to paint the picture that there's something wrong with looking things up lol.

[Nalien]

Just give us Levequest based Hunts already... It's such a better system for this style of content...

-Have a progression system (B Rank Leve drops item for A Rank Leve, and so on), so people can work on Hunts at their own pace, can even keep timers in place for A/S Rank Leves.
-Leves can have actual objectives that simulate Hunting (some existing Leves already do, just upscale those), not blindly following a train of people.
-Encounters limited to you and your party, allowing for better balanced combat, rather than the entire data center showing up to trivialize content.

You can even keep the S Rank spawn mechanics in place, just transpose them over to a Levequest and make them hidden objectives. So you have a Levequest for Forgiven Pedantry, but it's entirely possible to complete it in failure by not encountering the S Rank, to encounter it you'd still need to have someone in your party gather the correct item while doing the Levequest in order to spawn Forgiven Pedantry.

I'd say keep Forgiven Rebellion as a world boss, though (and add similar SS Rank Hunts to ARR/HW/SB). World bosses are fine as a rare encounter, making them the default for Hunts was a mistake IMHO.

[KageTokage]

The hunt sniffing programs are not as prevalent these days, partly because people used them mainly to know if a hunt spawned in the first place (Which the game now tells you on its own).

They mostly see use by trolls who want to know exactly where ARR hunts are ASAP so they can solo them before anyone can locate/call them.

In any case, I feel like the system is mostly fine as is, though we really need a way to know when a S rank's spawn window is/isn't open ingame so people don't have to shoot blind if it's killed without its time of death being logged somewhere.

[Alucard135]

I dont think he was talking of that. But of when you spawn a weak hunt yourself, and that the short time you find where it is on the map the mob has already been silently killed by people using hunt add-on radars to quickly steal hunts from the spawners. Without waiting for anyone nor making ls or shout calls for it.

Again, the chances of that scenario actually happening is low. ARR S ranks have been called for on Cactuar and killed by the players on a regular basis. And if a case like that happen frequently, we would hear about it a lot. And KageTokage can shed more light if this actually happens on Cactuar, since they're among the ones who actively spawns S ranks regularly.

[Harmonea]

If a person finds a hunt that can be soloed, it's their right to solo it without telling anyone. Yes, even S-ranks, as some are spawned basically by accident. I know I've come across Nandi hanging out right by the electrum nodes, left the area because I didn't spawn it, and come back 10+ minutes later and found him still up with no one gathering to kill him.

We can argue with each other about intent til we're blue in the face, but this is not some oversight that they haven't had time to stop and think about how to address. Yoshi-P and his team know what they're doing and clearly don't feel these things matter now that they're not current content. Immunity timers would just add a layer of frustration on top of content that just doesn't matter anymore.