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    Esmoire's Avatar
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    Mei Coincounter
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100

    A modest request from a warrior main

    Please make Onslaught free to use outside of combat.

    As it is, it's not fair that we have to actually walk up to the boss after zoning into a duty. Are you out of your mind!? You must understand I came from playing WAR in 4.x where we sat in grandeur thrones of oppression and luxury and am not accustomed to hardship and not being the best at basically everything. Sure Onslaught had a cost back then but at the very least paladins, the secondary BiS for the warrior, also joined us for our march towards glory. Now PLD and this new nerdbreaker job get to zoop into battle and we're left in the dust.

    All the other tanks get to zoop into battle! Mom, it's not fair!
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    As the "angry wild berserker" archetype, it does seem a little odd that Warrior can't actually do an initial charge into battle but the "staunch shield wall" Paladin can.
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    Alexya Ultor
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Please make Onslaught free to use outside of combat.

    As it is, it's not fair that we have to actually walk up to the boss after zoning into a duty. Are you out of your mind!? You must understand I came from playing WAR in 4.x where we sat in grandeur thrones of oppression and luxury and am not accustomed to hardship and not being the best at basically everything. Sure Onslaught had a cost back then but at the very least paladins, the secondary BiS for the warrior, also joined us for our march towards glory. Now PLD and this new nerdbreaker job get to zoop into battle and we're left in the dust.

    All the other tanks get to zoop into battle! Mom, it's not fair!
    I always open with Tomahawk anyway, so by the time I want to charge into battle I'm already in combat. Maybe give Onslaught a 5s window following the WAR gaining aggro on something in which it can be used for free?
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    Lost Skywatcher
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
    I always open with Tomahawk anyway, so by the time I want to charge into battle I'm already in combat. Maybe give Onslaught a 5s window following the WAR gaining aggro on something in which it can be used for free?
    Or Tomahawk gives ‘free onslaught’
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
    I always open with Tomahawk anyway, so by the time I want to charge into battle I'm already in combat. Maybe give Onslaught a 5s window following the WAR gaining aggro on something in which it can be used for free?
    Well OF COURSE. That is what we do NOW. You think I just WALK UP TO THE ENEMY AND /HUG THEM?

    I am asking you, my dear, to be a visionary! Not to gaze on the sorry warrior that we have now, but the warrior that could be! For the warrior's zoop has a special quality above all zoops, allowing the warrior to traverse to her hapless victim from an entire 20 yalms away. This is more than the 15 yalms of Tomahawk and the other zoops, allowing the warrior to approach 33.3% sooner.
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Sarcasm is just a sarcasm, but reality is warrior is the least played tank by a huge shot and this happens for a reason.

    Boring, underperforming middleman with few super annoying gimmicks and that would differentiate him from the rest of the tanks.
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    LunaChild's Avatar
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    Belmont Blanc
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    Masamune
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I pull with Tomahawk and let the Boss move to me a bit before running to it anyway so its position will be placed in the center of arena.
    If anything, I don't want Onslaught becomes "don't let this cap it's charge or I'm losing dps" ability. I like how it is right now tbh, only use when necessary.
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  8. #8
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    Sabora_Makingai's Avatar
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    Sabora Makingai
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Well one trade-off is that PLDs dont have access to one of our defensive cooldowns until like 20-25 seconds into a fight (depending on uptime) because its tied to gauge where WARs (and every other tank) can just hit their TBNs and whatever else the others have right at the start.
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    Jukebox12's Avatar
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    Juke Fm
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Just tomahawk and walk you lazy bum
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    As the "angry wild berserker" archetype, it does seem a little odd that Warrior can't actually do an initial charge into battle but the "staunch shield wall" Paladin can.
    The wild angry berserker needs to build anger to use it though. Additionally, Onslaught can be used more often and has better range (that extra 5' it has truly, truly makes a difference in my opinion).
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