Where is 1.20B, Is 1.21 going to be late?

[Avraym]

My opinion is now that we're paying, the following improvements in regards to patches should be made:

• Patch releases should be timed appropiately.
• Patch notes released ahead of time (just add subject to change)
• Delays should be notified ahead of time.
• More bug testing to avoid delays (have dev's learned nothing)

Games such as WoW, Dragon Nest, Maplestory, Perfect World, Wakfu ect ect, show what we can except in future patches with Interviews/Youtube/Magazines. But you have to admit, we get left in the dark as much as possible and what we do see, is minimal at best.

Players expect more for a P2P Service, as they should.

If patch were delayed only once every so often, it wouldn't be an issue.
But given that almost no patches have reached a timely release and almost always go live as far into the quoted time as possible, it seems unfair if we had to pay for extra months for a 2.0 promised in Q4 2012.

With each patch delay the 2.0 release date seems unlikely for 2012, in my opinion.

[Jinko]

My opinion is now that we're paying, patch releases should be more professional and timed appropiately.
EG: Delays should be notified ahead of time/More bug testing (have we learned nothing)/Previews of Future content.

Games such as WoW, Dragon Nest, Maplestory, Perfect World, Wakfu ect ect, show what we can except in future patches with Interviews/Youtube/Magazines. But you have to admit, we get left in the dark as much as possible.

The White Knights need to think about the new consequences shrouded for a service which is now P2P.

So .. now you are paying you are more self entitled than ever ?

News flash it doesn't work like that.

It worth noting I'm far from a whiteknight and always ready to give SE shit when they deserve it, but being behind schedule is not one of those times.

But given that almost no patches have reached a timely release and almost always go live as far into the quoted time as possible, it seems unfair if we had to pay for extra months for a 2.0 promised in Q4 2012.

With each patch delay the 2.0 release date seems unlikely for 2012, in my opinion.

If its that unfair then maybe you should rethink paying for the game.
Chances are 2.0 may very well end up in early 2013.

Lets not forget that SE rushed the game to the market once already and that didn't work out so well for them, it would be unwise to do that again.

They also rushed the start of subsciptions out before the new billing system was ready and see how that turned out.

[Avraym]

So .. now you are paying you are more self entitled than ever ?

News flash it doesn't work like that.

It worth noting I'm far from a whiteknight and always ready to give SE shit when they deserve it, but being behind schedule is not one of those times.

I think if you subscribed for a 6month subscripition under the basis that "Radical Changes to in-game World" Would be implemented within that time-frame, but were still at 1.22, you'd be entitled to being pissed.

If its that unfair then maybe you should rethink paying for the game.

If a customer is promised for a service within a time frame, pays for it, and there is delays, generally the customer is entitled to being angry/dissapointed and is compensated appropiately (In most cases).

I'm happy with the current service, but I worry about the future with their history in regards to patches.

[Jinko]

I think if you subscribed for a 6month subscripition under the basis that "Radical Changes to in-game World" Would be implemented within that time-frame, but were still at 1.22, you'd be entitled to being pissed.

I'm happy with the current service, but I worry about the future with their history in regards to patches.

Fair enough, how many months behind are we from previous patches if you add them all together, it doesn't seem like much to me, maybe 2-3 months at the most.

Granted thats half your subscription but I guess it was the risk you took when you payed 6 months in advance.

As you said yourself that there has been delays previously so why would you start paying and think anything would drastically change.

If a customer is promised for a service within a time frame, pays for it, and there is delays, generally the customer is entitled to being angry/dissapointed and is compensated appropiately (In most cases).

Which goes back to my first post about taking a date to literally and the very reason why most MMO devs won't give out information like that because it almost always bites them in the ass.

[Avraym]

Fair enough, how many months behind are we from previous patches if you add them all together, it does seem like much to me, maybe 2-3 months at the most.

Granted thats half your subscription but I guess it was the risk you took when you payed 6 months in advance.

Of course. I'm sure I agreed to take that risk by accepting their ToS. But like I said, people will be angry with a sloppy service, and you can't take that justified feeling away.

You can offer critisicm's/suggestions prior, in hopes to avoid what appears to be the inevitable.