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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post


    With a quality PSU, decent cooling and regular cleaning it's really not a problem for modern hardware to run under load 24/7. The electricity bill on the other hand though.....
    You be shocked how little a PS4 pro uses as far as power. My power bill isn't even above 100 bucks. Tho really only one room in my apt is used and that's the bedroom with my PS4 and oled tv which is never off. Only time my system goes off is the forced updates. Tech is really good nowdays. Then again I think I'm just lucky with playstations as my PSX was on nonstop for a year nonstop because I didn't have a memory card. Playing FF7 without a card and beating it back in 98 was hell. I really hate when bosses use final attack because of that year.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
    You be shocked how little a PS4 pro uses as far as power.
    Very true. My gamestream/transcode box uses about as much energy at the wall as my living room lamp did before LED bulbs. A mid range PC or console is going to be far lower still.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Ty for the good response <3

    It's really important to note that from SE's corner, an idling AFK player is literally free money. Modern online client/server games have been excellent at assuming clients are idle until they are not pretty much as far back as the likes of Quakeworld and you can actually use that game to demonstrate my points made here if you are so inclined.

    Interestingly, minions generate quite a bit more traffic than their owners in these situations, thus why I guess SE has never been too keen on truly making them persistent.

    Itrimmed for char limit
    Thank you for the concise response.

    RMT bots are absolutely a more major issue. But the lesser of two evils is still an evil. I never said that it was a major issue for square's server loads per say (we've come a far cry from SB launch) simply that for lower end PCs and to an extent PS4s it adds to client side frame rate drops and lag. I'm fortunate enough to have built a PC this year but, before i was playing on an older PS4 and absolutely had issues loading into major cities.

    Additionally, SE has made it clear that they want to limit the amount of people logged into a singular world at a time, bots add to this as well, but there were log in issues before the bot population exploded to the degree it has.

    You're talking to me about server jargon, that i never mentioned but i appreciate the insight on that. Though i would like to point out that the freest money square gets is when youre sub is active but youre not logged in at all.

    As for those using the game as a social or chat room, thats fine and all if youre actually chatting in game but then again if you are doing that the game wont read you as afk. If you want to be constantly connected to your FC or linkshell and see everything that there is to talk about, theres discord for that.

    The wear is slow on higher end builds sure, but for other PCs and PS4s it can absolutely become an issue. I didnt mean your computer would explode if left on too long, but its longevity could be affected. Also yeah rip that electric bill lmao.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    the thousands of servers running 24/7 say otherwise. And I don't just mean game servers.
    Servers are managed a tad bit differently than the average gaming PC or PS4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
    You be shocked how little a PS4 pro uses as far as power. My power bill isn't even above 100 bucks. Tho really only one room in my apt is used and that's the bedroom with my PS4 and oled tv which is never off. Only time my system goes off is the forced updates. Tech is really good nowdays. Then again I think I'm just lucky with playstations as my PSX was on nonstop for a year nonstop because I didn't have a memory card. Playing FF7 without a card and beating it back in 98 was hell. I really hate when bosses use final attack because of that year.
    ...
    First time I played ffvii, we rented a ps1 from family video and the game when we went to spend the weekend at grandparents...

    Grandpa refused to stop by kb toys so I could buy a memory card.

    Played it straight through until I was killed by a worm undrr the gold saucer.
    Was something like 2 or 3 in the morning at that point, guess that's bedtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    How is an abundance of players in an online game a problem? Lol.
    That’s obviously not what I meant. Calm down, lol.
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    Last edited by CookiesNCreams; 10-08-2019 at 10:06 AM.

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Servers are managed a tad bit differently than the average gaming PC or PS4.
    The components are mostly the same though.

    Server components fail all the time, per 1000 or w/e statistics are relevant. I may be biased on that, as my job is to support and repair several thousand servers used for cloud services.
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    Yeah I hope they take it off again soon. My server has had a small queue since World Visit was implemented before ShB launched no matter what time I'm on, so if we waited for that to go away, we'd be waiting a long time.

    Plus 30 minutes is too short. Go to take a quick shower and get some food on a break, come back to the Shadowbringers trailer playing.
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  9. #39
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    I know on my server I have seen same 3 lalafells doing songbird dance and singing for about month now in same spot and they never been disconnected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I know on my server I have seen same 3 lalafells doing songbird dance and singing for about month now in same spot and they never been disconnected.
    Doing basically anything that makes the server think you're "busy" like crafting, adjusting your HUD interface, or I think even /gpose will prevent it from auto-kicking you.

    It won't keep you from getting kicked from the Novice Network for inactivity, though...which suggests that the people that I routinely see sitting around doing nothing for hours on end but not being kicked from either the game or NN are doing something else.
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