That ToS update that ruffled some jimmies a few months ago

[Zarabeth]

Once again, glad I'm on Leviathan. These problems seem to not be a big deal there, at least in my experience. Maybe we just have thicker skins than most?
As to the TOS changes; No, you can't please everyone all the time but being nice to each other can save a lot of hurt feelings.

[SerLuke]

Someone has been banned off Heartstone tournaments (And confiscated his gain) by Blizzard for expressing political opinions about Hong-Kong.

Oh wait is this what this thread was about, I was kinda scratching my head. In any event I’m not sure what this thread is doing here since Blizzard’s wrong actions have nothing to do with Final Fantasy XIV or Square Enix...

[Barraind]

If that's what the OP is talking about, it's a long stretch from that incident to (I assume) saying that we should be concerned about the TOS changes or whether we should regret arguing in favour of them.

All the debate on the TOS - or certainly the vast majority of it - was about what might happen if one individual player offends another individual player. The Blizzard incident (whatever you think of how it was handled) was about someone using a company's public platform to express an opinion that may have consequences for that company's revenue and business relationships.

I don't think the two issues are comparable enough.

They also fired and banned the casters who translated his comments for the stream.

Note that the portion of the ToS they are saying he and they broke is literally "We reserve the right to ban you if you cause offense to a portion of our community". They have 0 language about anything that can or cannot be said in any capacity as an employee, customer, consumer, competitor or in any other position or place.

In fact, their employment contracts have nothing like that (and never have) as well.

[Hyperia]

I try to live by the golden rule, do unto others as you wish done to you. If I get in trouble for being nice to people, well... I can live with that.

[TheForce]

Sorry to hear you're not allowed to be a douchebag to people without facing repercussion. I'll keep you in my thoughts.

...you do realize that somebody would be able to report you for this exact statement right? Of course we should all be amicable to each other, but pay attention, as you go about to try & make "d*****bags" know how they crappy they are, be sure to not use literally the same exact kind of language and tone they do. You don't fight rudeness with rudeness, that's not how this works.

[Vahlnir]

Someone has been banned off Heartstone tournaments (And confiscated his gain) by Blizzard for expressing political opinions about Hong-Kong.

The guy was brave in his support for HK. He knew that he was going to be punished, most likely severely, and that his life could very well be put into danger in some ways...but he did it anyway. I admire that a great deal. Then again, I admire anyone who makes that sort of stand and is in my opinion justified. At the end of the day, he broke the rules. So Blizzard was justified in dishing out some sort of punishment. However, many have come to a consensus that the punishment didn't fit the "crime". It was too heavy handed, and was obviously meant to appease Blizzard's bestest friend ever (China). Unfortunately for Blizzard, this has backfired a great deal. Maybe not financially, but bad press is bad press. And there has been A LOT of bad press. Probably the most they've ever received, actually. Blizzcon will be interesting this year. This current debacle makes Diablo Immortal's controversy at last year's con look like nothing.

[Mavrias]

Honestly, i dont believe you're equating blizzard banning a guy to appease the chinese so they dont lose out on a pretty significant portion of their income and square's terms of service asking you not to be rude to other people in game.

Blizzard did not ban the guy because of their ToS. They're using that as an excuse. They banned him because they like money and don't wanna risk their games being banned in China.

[Vahlnir]

Honestly, i dont believe you're equating blizzard banning a guy to appease the chinese so they dont lose out on a pretty significant portion of their income and square's terms of service asking you not to be rude to other people in game.

Blizzard did not ban the guy because of their ToS. They're using that as an excuse. They banned him because they like money and don't wanna risk their games being banned in China.

It's a pretty big stretch yeah, at least for the moment. Anything is possible though. As far as FF XIV is concerned, China has their version and we have ours, and the 2 versions are ran very differently, and by what I consider to be 2 completely different countries and entities. So I don't think we have much to worry about since they have a version that they can change and alter as much as they want.

[Nomuno]

Honestly, i dont believe you're equating blizzard banning a guy to appease the chinese so they dont lose out on a pretty significant portion of their income and square's terms of service asking you not to be rude to other people in game.

Blizzard did not ban the guy because of their ToS. They're using that as an excuse. They banned him because they like money and don't wanna risk their games being banned in China.

This is what he is referring too -- put SE in place of blizzard in that statement and that is what its about

[Mavrias]

This is what he is referring too -- put SE in place of blizzard in that statement and that is what its about

If you cant understand the difference between a company making an example out of a guy so that they dont lose out on an entire market, and a ToS saying "hey guys maybe dont use slurs" idk what to tell you.

OPs post is about company's banning you for offending someone uses the not at all similar example of Blitzchung as a comparison. Its a political statement, they didnt ban him because he said someone was garbage at hearthstone.