That ToS update that ruffled some jimmies a few months ago

[Iscah]

In light of the enlightening display this last weekend of what enforcement of "we can ban you if you offend anyone" clauses in ToS' can bring, would anyone still like to argue the side of "no company will ban you for offending someone"?

Someone has been banned off Heartstone tournaments (And confiscated his gain) by Blizzard for expressing political opinions about Hong-Kong.

If that's what the OP is talking about, it's a long stretch from that incident to (I assume) saying that we should be concerned about the TOS changes or whether we should regret arguing in favour of them.

All the debate on the TOS - or certainly the vast majority of it - was about what might happen if one individual player offends another individual player. The Blizzard incident (whatever you think of how it was handled) was about someone using a company's public platform to express an opinion that may have consequences for that company's revenue and business relationships.

I don't think the two issues are comparable enough.

[Noitems]

It's funny that measures are taken so that the snowflakes don't cry but then you see bots camp out all over the main cities as if this were a Free to Play.

Those rules would be fairer if this game weren't full of edgy children, passive-aggressive people and other characters that one tries to avoid at all costs so as not to enter into absurd discussions.

I know it's them trying to make the game a safer place for all, but the fact it's taken so seriously regardless of the context is just a pain when reading some of those GM posts. Some are totally deserved, but for people who dropped the F bomb not in a hateful context but in funny way (like messing up something and going "Awwwww F-bomb") can still be subjected to a GM visit because someone found it rude is just no bueno.

[CookiesNCreams]

Final Fantasy XIV has a toxic forum, so imagine if all that toxicity were to be brought to the game...yikes. I guess there’s a reason why SE doesn’t want stuff like a Dislike button on here, it would turn into reddit haha.

As for the rules being too snowflake-ish...that’s because (from what I’ve noticed) people are snowflakey in-game but are toxic as heck on the forums. Not just that but the FFXIV dev team seem to support it. Otherwise, why would those rules be set in place anyway? A game is defined by the developers, not just the community.

Call of duty = morons constantly yelling on the mic over lag and saying racial slurs, nothing happens to them

Uncharted 4 = same thing

Second life = people are toxic in game but are nice on forums

FFXIV = people are toxic on forums but nice in game

If developers allow certain things to happen, that says a lot about them, does it not? Personally, if I was the lead director of an mmo, I would allow or disallow whatever I felt makes the game flourish in sales.

[Freyt]

The people coming from WoW in light of recent events demonstrate exactly why we're so sensitive about this terminology.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I have yet to hear or see any difference in the gms handing out bans after the changes. People got all up in arms over nothing, as usual on the internet.

Also, it's funny to see a person who is quite toxic calling other people on the forums toxic.


As for the hearthstone player, he used a Blizzard official event to profess political opinion. He broke their rules. I'm sympathetic to their plight, but there is a time and place to do things, and an official event run by a company is not it.

[FedoraTheExplorer]

Sorry to hear you're not allowed to be a douchebag to people without facing repercussion. I'll keep you in my thoughts.

[LaylaTsarra]

The first generation of snowflakes is now out of universities

So snowflakes follow the rules and don't have an issue with the TOS? Got it.

[Anatha]

Lately we\\'ve seen companies and celebreties pulling a lot of virtue signalling stunts that backfired horribly... think of the Captain Marvel actress openly saying she doesn\\'t want "old white men" to see her movie... yeah we all know how that went at the boxoffice xD Or Gillette loosing like 8 billion USD net worth after slandering 95% of their customerbase simply for being male xD
The first generation of snowflakes is now out of universities, got jobs at mayor companies, influencing their course (and costing them a lot of money in the process until they get fired ^^). So yeah, companies alienating and driving away their customers for no other reason than virtue signalling is an actual thing these days.

Captain Marvel was a record breaking success. Guess you stopped caring about reality once you bought into that ridiculous narrative.

[Omymy]

Sorry to hear you're not allowed to be a douchebag to people without facing repercussion. I'll keep you in my thoughts.

Show me on the doll where they touched you.

[Mistyregions]

Don't be a jerk and you won't get banned

Dude really? Why are you usuing offensive language? Banned.