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  1. #24401
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    Raltar's Avatar
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    Raltar Arianrhod
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Had a tank in Copperbell mines today think it was alright to randomly go AFK during the first and second boss without saying anything even when he came back. He was running around erratically and doing a piss poor job of keeping agro on everything. So we kicked him. I think it might have been a bot.
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  2. #24402
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    Callinon's Avatar
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raltar View Post
    Had a tank in Copperbell mines today think it was alright to randomly go AFK during the first and second boss without saying anything even when he came back. He was running around erratically and doing a piss poor job of keeping agro on everything. So we kicked him. I think it might have been a bot.
    On the first boss? I mean... how could you tell?
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  3. #24403
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    So had a leveling roulette last night that plopped me into Sohm Al with one new person. Party setup was PLD (me), WHM BLM BLM.

    One of the blm came in wearing the lvl 50 af you get from completing your 50 quest and some diddly accessories on the right. The other had obviously been picking up quest reward pieces. Whm had 58 white stuff on her body, but normal ironworks cane and stuff stuff for the rest. I realized it wouldn't be a good idea to do my usual mass pulls, and I was right.

    Both blm would use fire 2, freeze, single thunders, and blizzard 1 and 3. I could hear lots of transposing going off as I was trying to get them to aoe mobs around the first set of drakespurs in the first hallway. However they really, REALLY liked using Flare for the first hallway. Neither of them ever used Sharpcast to get Fire 3 proc as I never heard it go off.

    The whm...was a special case. She would oftentimes precast regen before I would pull, but...I never saw Holy, Medica I or even II, Cure II go off at all, and I don't remember seeing her use lilies, let alone Asylum. I only saw her cast Cure, Stone, Regen, and Aero.

    First boss wasn't so bad as I was mostly the pollen target, and the af blm decided THEN was a good time to use Leylines. I never saw them use LL after that.

    Second boss...I inform them of the boss' mechanics, only for them to somehow nearly fail i.e. the whm wouldn't stack with us for red, almost killing the two blms. When the green slime spawned, only me and the whm try our best to focus down the add, but it gets off Last Song and both the blm barely survive...only to both die to blue slimes to the face.

    Third boss...once I explain the green meteor mechanic, everything seems fine until the wing phase. Gold meteors everyone else is doing a panic run to the marker I put down for the green meteors and just not really dpsing much, causing that phase to take longer than normal. The rest of the fight goes rather uneventfully other than the new blm not remembering to move away fast enough from the green meteor bunch, causing her to die.

    I give my usual congrats on the clear, pass on loot, comm the new blm, and yeet myself out of there. My brain still hurts.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  4. #24404
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    FedoraTheExplorer's Avatar
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    Roland Umbrosus
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    Brynhildr
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Got WoD. "Yes, something that isn't LotA/Syrcus!"

    We get to the first boss and wipe because mechanics like "kill adds" and "don't look at the eye" is too hard for people to grasp, I guess. I don't want to be too mean though, we did have new people. So after a few people patiently explain the mechanics, we get people ragequitting. Ragequtting World of Darkness. It's not even hard. We try again despite being a little short on people, but I'm the only healer now in my alliance since the other ragequitted, I unfortunately just don't have enough mana to keep my party and everyone else up and it feels like the other healers aren't even doing anything. I watch a WHM literally just stand there throughout the fight. We wipe again. Cue someone in another alliance having a fit, "you guys are wasting our times, you're not even trying, i'm out". Okay just go. The whole world doesn't need to see your dramatics. The raid gets vote abandoned. Wow.

    I'm kind of in a bad mood now because of that. People literally cannot handle anything above LotA/Syrcus.
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    Last edited by FedoraTheExplorer; 10-09-2019 at 05:35 AM.

  5. #24405
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    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by FedoraTheExplorer View Post
    Got WoD. "Yes, something that isn't LotA/Syrcus!"

    We get to the first boss and wipe because mechanics like "kill adds" and "don't look at the eye" is too hard for people to grasp, I guess. I don't want to be too mean though, we did have new people. So after a few people patiently explain the mechanics, we get people ragequitting. Ragequtting World of Darkness. It's not even hard. We try again despite being a little short on people, but I'm the only healer now in my alliance since the other ragequitted, I unfortunately just don't have enough mana to keep my party and everyone else up and it feels like the other healers aren't even doing anything. I watch a WHM literally just stand there throughout the fight. We wipe again. Cue someone in another alliance having a fit, "you guys are wasting our times, you're not even trying, i'm out". Okay just go. The whole world doesn't need to see your dramatics. The raid gets vote abandoned. Wow.

    I'm kind of in a bad mood now because of that. People literally cannot handle anything above LotA/Syrcus.
    According to my friend WoD wipes is like 2015 all over again. You have to do mechanics and stuff. I remember one of really bizarre runs. It was an... experience. 2 wipes on the Eye. 2 wipes on the dragon. Wipe on the fucking Atomos. The only things we didn't wipe on were Cerberus and Cloud. Like whoa.
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    Last edited by Flay_wind; 10-09-2019 at 06:12 AM.
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  6. #24406
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    So a couple of short stories.

    Just got my alt to lv80 and finish msq try and wanted to get both Twinning and Ayder done

    Story 1(Twinning) : get in me(dnc) low gear due to low gil but doable, another dnc ilv 450, gnb and sch, I beat the other dancer on aggro for everything aoes i won, bosses i was beating them, i try offering advice on rotation (saw was a bit over the place) get the usual don't pay my sub so i turn round and say "you shouldn't be being beaten on aggro by someone 25 ilvs behind you on the same job either learn to get better or shut up with that excuse." Walked out with 2 comms so i think hlr and tank were more on my side.

    Story 2(Ayder): Drg just stopped for 10 secs at a time after every jump i was concerned for a good while eventually chimed in jokingly "You taking pictures back there drg(used character's name)?" the reply was "Yes trying get a good angle" I go "Best come in with premade for that" the reply "tried only got two friends" so i sucked it up and finished the dungeon took 40 mins was slow but that is the dice i roll (if they had been rude like the 1st story i would've left but they were pleasant people just slow).
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  7. #24407
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    savageink's Avatar
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    According to my friend WoD wipes is like 2015 all over again. You have to do mechanics and stuff. I remember one of really bizarre runs. It was an... experience. 2 wipes on the Eye. 2 wipes on the dragon. Wipe on the fucking Atomos. The only things we didn't wipe on were Cerberus and Cloud. Like whoa.
    Thats kind of impressive. I think the only one I've ever had wipes on is Cerberus. And almost every group I've been in wipes on Cerberus.
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  8. #24408
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    According to my friend WoD wipes is like 2015 all over again. You have to do mechanics and stuff. I remember one of really bizarre runs. It was an... experience. 2 wipes on the Eye. 2 wipes on the dragon. Wipe on the fucking Atomos. The only things we didn't wipe on were Cerberus and Cloud. Like whoa.
    You truly haven't died in WoD until you get a group that lets Cloud Darkness eat all clouds and then uses max power Flood of Darkness for the most epic wipe in FFXIV history. This used to happen quite a lot back in 2015.

    Wipes still occur to Angra because of Mortal Gaze and the that debuff mechanic you have to swap every time the boss uses it. What a lot of people don't understand about the mechanic is that the angle of the room wide aoe is determined by the angle of the boss' position(..like if he is facing in a 175 degree angle instead of the more preferred 90 degree), so if tanks are ping ponging the boss, the line you need to cross might be too far for you to get to. Then there is the mortal gaze and its 2 ways to remove doom. The pads, or just simply turn from the boss before it goes off. Mortal gaze is often the one that wipes groups from my experience.
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    Last edited by Rasikko; 10-09-2019 at 12:40 PM.

  9. #24409
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    In the final fight of Akadaemia Anyder, why do some melees insist on running to the back of the room to collect orbs instead of getting the orbs that are within melee range. If you're both melee, sure, since someone needs to collect them. But you're partied with a ranged character (Red Mage in my case) who is adept at lining up an optimal path to collect the back half of the room leaving you to collect any orbs in the front half.

    I just got out of the dungeon and this samurai who did everything else decently enough absolutely lost the commendation I was going to give him because of this. He'd completely ignore any orbs within a handful of steps of the boss, and run to race ahead of me to collect the orbs at the back and then teleport back to the boss still leaving all of the melee vicinity ones still standing. It didn't matter which orbs I'd try to collect, he'd run to the orb closest to me while I was in my 2s cast time and then run ahead of me during my 3s of oGCD time. If he'd stayed in melee vicinity, he might have actually equalled or even slightly passed me in DPS for the run too since he lost so many GCD "stealing" orbs from me that he fell behind and made the boss kill slower. That's just the most extreme example, but I've seen multiple melee try to collect the orbs at the back when the ranged and healers are clearly doing so already. I don't get it.
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  10. #24410
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    Raltar's Avatar
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    Raltar Arianrhod
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    In the final fight of Akadaemia Anyder, why do some melees insist on running to the back of the room to collect orbs instead of getting the orbs that are within melee range. If you're both melee, sure, since someone needs to collect them. But you're partied with a ranged character (Red Mage in my case) who is adept at lining up an optimal path to collect the back half of the room leaving you to collect any orbs in the front half.

    I just got out of the dungeon and this samurai who did everything else decently enough absolutely lost the commendation I was going to give him because of this. He'd completely ignore any orbs within a handful of steps of the boss, and run to race ahead of me to collect the orbs at the back and then teleport back to the boss still leaving all of the melee vicinity ones still standing. It didn't matter which orbs I'd try to collect, he'd run to the orb closest to me while I was in my 2s cast time and then run ahead of me during my 3s of oGCD time. If he'd stayed in melee vicinity, he might have actually equalled or even slightly passed me in DPS for the run too since he lost so many GCD "stealing" orbs from me that he fell behind and made the boss kill slower. That's just the most extreme example, but I've seen multiple melee try to collect the orbs at the back when the ranged and healers are clearly doing so already. I don't get it.
    It could be because most people don't trust randos in duty finder. I wouldn't. As a tank, I've watched too many DPS just stand there DPSing the boss instead of grabbing orbs. So I grab the melee ones and my brother as a healer grabs the ranged ones. I usually stop if I see the DPS moving to grab them, though, but I do start to go for them when they spawn just in case.
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