Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Senn]

Also, I'm thinking 6.0 could be when we'd get them considering the amount of work that would go into making M!Viera/F!Hroth, and the armor sets will be stuck at the QA level for quite a while. Considering that, it's 6.0 or when the game stops getting major content patches, as a way to entice back/retain players.

I'm just curious, but what makes you think they will come at 6.0 at the earliest? I was thinking 7.0 because there seems to be a pattern with the way races come out (we didn't get a new race in SB for example).

[Crushnight]

I'm just curious, but what makes you think they will come at 6.0 at the earliest? I was thinking 7.0 because there seems to be a pattern with the way races come out (we didn't get a new race in SB for example).

I would say 6.0 or bust due to the amount of work that would be required.

Take female Viera and male Hrothgar for example the amount of limitations on them at the moment yet compare it to what would be required for a 6.0 release of the same amount of work 2 genders model, fitted to gear, unique hairstyles, emotes, mount positions etc etc which would be everything up to and including 6.0 (1.0 stuff included) there will be the same limitations if not a few more especially if they keep the current work schedule which they don't seem to be changing at the moment.

Now add everything from 1.0 to 7.0 and it looks bleaker and bleaker as time goes on so long as they have this work schedule, also bare in mind we have no clue how much would be released in 5.XX and 6.XX lifetimes but if on par with Stormblood at least welp i do not see it happening beyond 6.0 not without either heavy limitations on the race (very little gear usable) or a change in their work schedule happens and the developers are given more time( goodluck getting the playerbase to agree with longer waits for patches).

[Halivel]

I'm just curious, but what makes you think they will come at 6.0 at the earliest? I was thinking 7.0 because there seems to be a pattern with the way races come out (we didn't get a new race in SB for example).

I think mostly because 7.0 will have an unbearable amount of clothes for remodeling for a new race.

Even if part of them is just repainting, you still need to adjust them and check that they work without critical issues. Time for some rough math.

We have 9407 armor items, 2981 accessories and 3484 weapons right now according to official lodestone database. It's 15872 in amount. Let's assume that about 20% are repaints (which means that the 3D model is shared) then it's 12697 in rest. The game is 6 years old, 7.0 means another 4 years (2 for 5.0 and 2 for 6.) of new armor items. When we will reach that point, there will be about 27.000 of equipable items already. It's just too much. And this is just clothes without hairstyles (which probably will be limited anyway) and emotes/animations.

And while it's not impossible to bring them for 7.0 if process is smart, the 6.0 looks more reasonable. More than this, I'm afraid that at point of 7.0 the end of life cycle for the game will be very near, so we don't even know how game will go after that.