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  1. #101
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    QooEr's Avatar
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    Qoo Er
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    yall really rather punish people harshly for leaving than incentivizing them to stay...
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  2. #102
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    MariaArvana's Avatar
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    Maria Rubrum
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    I think they should allow Cutscene skipping, but only allow the bosses to spawn once everyone is out of cutscene, that way you don't have to watch, and newbies don't have to miss out on battles, which would also help in preventing some people from leaving.
    And then you create an incentive for people to stay silent (so there's little evidence for a GM to convict) and kick new people or people watching cutscenes so they not only get their super huge amounts of exp, they get out of there 2-3x as fast too. Not to mention if they ever allowed cutscene skipping again the rewards would have to be super nerfed to be adjusted to the fact you're no longer spending potentially 45mins in an instance, potentially de-incetivizing people to even queue up in the first place since the time-exp ratio may not be worth it anymore.

    All they need to do is make Castrum's rewards equal to Prae. When the combined length of taking a 30min penalty + the length of castrum is longer than Prae, there'd be no worries about people leaving Prae, on top of guaranteeing you get a certain amount of exp when you queue up for MSQ roulette, instead of potentially losing around a possible 10million(!) exp just because you flipped tails instead of heads.

    Well ideally they'd just make the two dungeons solo instances or maybe a faux-trust dungeon, but one step at a time.
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    Last edited by MariaArvana; 10-04-2019 at 04:09 PM.

  3. #103
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    Well ideally they'd just make the two dungeons solo instances or maybe a faux-trust dungeon, but one step at a time.
    I'm fairly convinced they intend to make both Trust only dungeons and do away with the MSQ roulette entirely. I wouldn't even surprised if that's one of the reasons ARR was delayed with New Game+.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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  4. #104
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    SE will never raise the penalty to more than 30 minutes. They don't want to loose tons of money from ones canceling there subs. Even if they boost the exp. to same as The Praetorium. I rather run The Praetorium over it since its so easy and have no chance of wiping like the other one. I have seen those cutscenes cause a lot of wipes in it.
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  5. #105
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    Meliadoul Tengille
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Moogle tomes have nothing to do with it. It's because Castrum is @!$% and gives half the exp for roulette. My group only reluctantly does it when time is short. I wish more people left.
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  6. #106
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzybehr View Post
    Moogle tomes have nothing to do with it. It's because Castrum is @!$% and gives half the exp for roulette. My group only reluctantly does it when time is short. I wish more people left.
    It also only takes half the time that Praetorium does. My Castrum runs are usually 22 minutes with a very on the spot group to 26 minutes with the typical group. Praetorium runs are minimum 43 minutes.

    Half as much XP for half the time spent seems fair. I can then spend the remaining 20+ minutes doing a level appropriate dungeon to make up the difference.

    If I abandon, I've 30 minutes I have to wait before I can queue again and there's no guarantee the next one won't also be Castrum.
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  7. #107
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It also only takes half the time that Praetorium does. My Castrum runs are usually 22 minutes with a very on the spot group to 26 minutes with the typical group. Praetorium runs are minimum 43 minutes.

    Half as much XP for half the time spent seems fair. I can then spend the remaining 20+ minutes doing a level appropriate dungeon to make up the difference.

    If I abandon, I've 30 minutes I have to wait before I can queue again and there's no guarantee the next one won't also be Castrum.
    Half xp for half time is indeed fair. But it's a daily roulette is the issue; if you get and keep Castrum, your MSQR is only worth half as much for the day.
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  8. #108
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    Okimi Shikinami
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    Bard Lv 100
    Castrum might be roughly 15 mins shorter than Prae. However, you must actively deal with more things in Castrum. I think that balances the runs enough to justify the same experience reward for both. And that would solve all the issues, imo.
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  9. #109
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    If the rewards were the same, people would be skipping on Praetorium instead because it's longer. Anything they do right now is a bandaid solution.
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  10. #110
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    Okimi Shikinami
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    If the rewards were the same, people would be skipping on Praetorium instead because it's longer. Anything they do right now is a bandaid solution.
    Longer, yes, but you can chill a lot more. I suppose it depends on the type of person: some play with a chronometer in hand, others rather lay back when it's okay to do so. But you are right, some would skip Prae then. I guess the only permanent solution is making them solo/trust instances, which I believe will come.
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    Last edited by Oichi; 10-06-2019 at 11:47 PM.

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