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  1. #31
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    I will thank you for sparing attention to me at all, but you did miss the point which was in all bold this time. That there is no 2-chest option as a filter when setting up PF, and it is an example of what little things like this say about the overall situation.
    You may also interpret it as an actual suggestion, i.e. just add it as a filter to PF settings, as well as improve PF interface overall, which I addressed in a separate thread.

    Otherwise there is lots of rhetoric there too. And hopefully SE can be bothered to see past both our ramble and make something out of it. Their loss otherwise.
    I'm still taking a break. I'm a bit calmer than when I wrote the post because I managed to find a 7/8 premade to clear E4S this week with slightly less meme-level than PF, but yes I don't have a static due to work schedule, and FC is nice and all but can't help until ultimate.

    Otherwise, I say again, make of it what you will. Or what you want. Or what you can. I will take a break and leave the floor to everyone else + SE.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raqrie_Tohka View Post
    SE will never understand why their game is not appealing to more players, of other games, of other infotainment and entertainment, despite trying to make anime commercials and a more generally appealing story. Because they are too focused on pleasing their dedicated customers. Which is not a bad thing per se, but in doing so, they risk disbalancing the game's overall structure to service specific requirements, and tunnel-vision in what they are trying to achieve until one day it's too late.
    The thing is SE isn't trying to appeal to its dedicated customers and fans it's trying to appeal to everyone and be mainstream and that's it's biggest problem.

    I believe Yoshi knows this. Back in February at some press thing or other he even commented and said that the future of the final fantasy brand needs to move away from the masses and go back to its fans if it wants to be sucessful.

    One of the games big problems is that it has alienated a good chunk of the final fantasy fanbase in its attempt to go more main stream and wow like. Classic final fantasy elements and staples have been absolutely butchered in the name of simplicity to attract the masses and the game has suffered badly for it.

    It's not just SE though. Its many game developers these days. Where something like 78% of AAA franchises underperform in the markets because they get butchered in the aim of super simplicity to pull in players it ends up destroying everything that made that franchise popular in the first place. And that's why people just aren't buying the games anymore and why so many new releases underperform.

    When fans dont like a game the average consumer isn't exactly going to pick it up and give it a try. But when fans love your games the average consumer is more likely to pick it up and see why it's so good.

    I personally have said ever since ARR the game itself is pretty mediocre /average at best. The main thing that's kept me around is my slowly shrinking circle of friends, the story itself, and some weird ass bond to my character I have after surviving 1.0. The circle of friends being the one that keeps me subscribed. The story I could just catch up on free log in campaigns.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 10-06-2019 at 06:30 AM.

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    I wouldn’t worry, it seems Square Enix is beginning to realize they can’t keep catering to the lazy audience all the time, and dumbing mechanics down so much. In the live letter digest, they mentioned (for crafting anyway) that they realize how bad end game crafting content is, and how easy it is, so they’ll be balancing it out to make it fairly difficult.

    That’s probably the first time since Stormblood they’ve ever said that and acknowledged that. So it seems even they have limits. Anyways, I mostly agree with what you say.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    This...quote...Has always irked me about this game from the moment I heard it. It's almost like they know the content given isn't enough and uses it as an excuse for the down time. For people like me who have been playing the game the last 4+ years who have done much of what's to offer, the little bits of content that can be finished in a few hours is embarassing. What's been released so far in SB after the initial release?
    • 4 boss battles (I don't care what anyone says, these aren't raids) that can be finished in a few hours.
    • 4 harder boss battles that may take a week at the most.
    • A "thank You" event to the fans that could be done in an hour
    • An obstacle course that could be finished in a few hours if you're good at jumping puzzles
    • RNG treasure dungeons

    And I get that everyone has different skill sets. For some it could take longer. But my point is SB was released in July. A lot of this content could be finished in a short period time. It's now October and a lot of use are still waiting for some meaningful content...It's been damn near 3 months. Most people only do the raids/trials for the gear which is worthless because the next batch of gear sets will make them obsolete anyway. And this has always been my main gripe with this game as much as I hate it, nothing has any value. You grind hours for a relic or spend hours learning an EX/Sav fight for gear that you'll have no content to use on. lol. And then it'll be weak come next patch cycle. That Vertical Progression for you...

    And they say take a break...but hey, you gotta keep paying that sub if you want to keep your house though!

    And don't get me wrong, I LOVED SB. As a single-player RPG, it's one of the best FF games that I have played in a long time. But as an MMO, the flaws from the previous years still shine through. Nothing's changed and I don't ever see it getting better.
    The reality is, consumable content cannot be made anywhere near the rate at which it can be consumed.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raqrie_Tohka View Post
    SE needs to listen, to improve FFXIV
    SE will never understand why their game is not appealing to more players, of other games, of other infotainment and entertainment, despite trying to make anime commercials and a more generally appealing story.
    Was they any point to making this self-defeating thread?
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  6. #36
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    ...they are listening to you people, and this is why the game is where it is now.
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  7. #37
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    SQEX please do something. My PF won't fill up and I can't play, do something cuz this is ruining my game experience.
    Something needs to be done so I can continue to play and have fun. K. Tnx.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    This dude wants a I win button and I hate you and want to ban you button.

    Look at point 7. He is so lazy the concept of clicking multiple buttons is to much for him to handle and feels the developers need to spend money to fix this problem. That is literally insane clicking buttons is a legitimate complaint? FFS.
    There's nothing suggesting an I-win-button in 1.-8, but what they consider as QoL changes. Whether you disgree with it or not doesn't matter. I agree with 2., though. GW2 has a better glamour system and ways to preview glamour on your char without needing another player to inspect, especially on cash shop outfits. On the other hand their cash-shop is integrated in the actual game interface, which is something many XIV's players would be not fond of (fair enough).
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    Just a proud bad-skilked player

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raqrie_Tohka View Post

    Otherwise there is lots of rhetoric there too. And hopefully SE can be bothered to see past both our ramble and make something out of it. Their loss otherwise.
    Its absolutly not their job to sort through rants, rambles and rhetoric to get to your point.
    The devs themself already speak little to no english and if your posts are so loaded with meaningless words, phrases and nonsense that even someone who does speak english has to guess what your problem is you wont get any complaints or suggetions across. Just some general advice here - keeping posts, specially suggestion-ones, as simple and easy to understand as possible is key if you want people to consider your suggestion at all.

    Looking past your rant and ramble isnt something you should expect SE to do - if you cant tell them whats the issue, using a clear and to-the-point language and leave them to guess what your actual problem is they should feel very free to ignore anything you write.
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    This thread is the epitome of why SE should completely ignore this forum.
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