Forced scarcity and exclusivity.

[DevilsDontFly]

Depends on what kind of exclusivity you're talking about, to me. I'm okay with something "exclusive" yet attainable for as long as I want, if I decide to put the effort into getting it. Example, UwU weapons.
On the other hand there's the kind of exclusivity that irritates people. Example, the raven earrings from 1.0 that got added to the mogstation and caused people to rampage over "muh limited edition toys!11!".

I just think it's a little weird that a lot of people in this game have those clothes, titles, accessories, mounts, weapons and etc that they never touch and neve see any use, yet they start rampaging and witchunting on the forums the moment those dusty, forgotten items become easily available to the masses.

It's a huge grey area, at least to me.

[Canadane]

Depends on what kind of exclusivity you're talking about, to me. I'm okay with something "exclusive" yet attainable for as long as I want, if I decide to put the effort into getting it. Example, UwU weapons.
On the other hand there's the kind of exclusivity that irritates people. Example, the raven earrings from 1.0 that got added to the mogstation and caused people to rampage over "muh limited edition toys!11!".

But UwU weapons aren't exclusive and would never be considered exclusive.

[AnimaAnimus]

On the other hand there's the kind of exclusivity that irritates people. Example, the raven earrings from 1.0 that got added to the mogstation and caused people to rampage over "muh limited edition toys!11!".

I just think it's a little weird that a lot of people in this game have those clothes, titles, accessories, mounts, weapons and etc that they never touch and neve see any use, yet they start rampaging and witchunting on the forums the moment those dusty, forgotten items become easily available to the masses.

It's a huge grey area, at least to me.

Because those were gifts from SE to those of us who played v1 as a "thank you for standing with us in the darkest of times". And gifts they promised would remain exclusive to us. It showed their appreciation and were important at that time. That's why a lot of us still hold onto items no one can even see or know we have because they were a drop or quest item or gear piece that simply no longer exists. v1 wasn't just a game, it was an experience, and those reminders make that experience that much more special.

Sure we may not glam them all the time or use them often, but when we see them they have a lot of sentimental value. And when SE goes back on their word and starts handing them out like candy to whoever wants it, it's a slap in the face that devalues an experience that a lot of people still hold dear.

It may sound silly to you cause it may be "just a game" but like I said, ffxiv v1 was a lot more than that for many and we were incredibly invested in this world, its people, its story and the games overall survival.

[DevilsDontFly]

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Putting it that way, I do understand the sentiment. I don't see it as "just a game", though, and I value the experiences and memories.
At the same time I look at "exclusives" I have and have been gathering/saving/stockpilling but never using and I can't help but ask myself "Why people get so upset over someone being able to use something I left to gather dust in my retainers for years", you know? Obviously different people see it differently, like you said. And because SE themselves give you a word and then goes back on it can be frustrating. So I definitely understand why it would be upsetting.

[AnimaAnimus]

Putting it that way, I do understand the sentiment. I don't see it as "just a game", though, and I value the experiences and memories.
At the same time I look at "exclusives" I have and have been gathering/saving/stockpilling but never using and I can't help but ask myself "Why people get so upset over someone being able to use something I left to gather dust in my retainers for years", you know? Obviously different people see it differently, like you said. And because SE themselves give you a word and then goes back on it can be frustrating. So I definitely understand why it would be upsetting.

Normal items I agree, but with legacy items think about it like this. You were involved in something at work that was never done before, where you were constantly providing feedback to improve a system that was broken, a system that many abandoned or scoffed at when you mentioned it. But you stayed with it, you persisted, you invested tons of time into it when there were better things out there and it became just as important to you as it was to its creator. And after all your work was done, when you expected nothing in return, you were gifted with something small and unimportant in the grand scheme of things, but you were told it was a thank you for helping. You go home and have it on display for awhile, but then things get crowded and you have more to display so you pack it away.

Then someone walks in one day and says "hey I heard you used to give your people X and I want one too, its old so its no big deal, just gimme it cause I want one too" and that person who gave you this thing that meant so much just said "ok whatever" and gave it to them. You may not have it on display anymore, it may just be in a box somewhere, but it still loses its luster and instead of being a symbol or recognition and gratitude, it becomes one of betrayal. I mean, basically that's what it is.

If SE just started giving out legacy items or putting them on the mogstation it would definitely be a betrayal, no matter how long its been. They can make something similar, but that exact item should stay exclusive, as it was promised. I, for one, would unsub if the tattoo, legacy chocobo and what not was suddenly on the mogstation because that would soil my relationship with SE. I was here because I wanted to be, I expected nothing, but they gave me something to show their appreciation, and that means something. Taking that away would show us, that we as customers, as players, as fans...mean nothing.

[PharisHanasaki]

Normal items I agree, but with legacy items think about it like this. You were involved in something at work that was never done before, where you were constantly providing feedback to improve a system that was broken, a system that many abandoned or scoffed at when you mentioned it. But you stayed with it, you persisted, you invested tons of time into it when there were better things out there and it became just as important to you as it was to its creator. And after all your work was done, when you expected nothing in return, you were gifted with something small and unimportant in the grand scheme of things, but you were told it was a thank you for helping. You go home and have it on display for awhile, but then things get crowded and you have more to display so you pack it away.

Then someone walks in one day and says "hey I heard you used to give your people X and I want one too, its old so its no big deal, just gimme it cause I want one too" and that person who gave you this thing that meant so much just said "ok whatever" and gave it to them. You may not have it on display anymore, it may just be in a box somewhere, but it still loses its luster and instead of being a symbol or recognition and gratitude, it becomes one of betrayal. I mean, basically that's what it is.

If SE just started giving out legacy items or putting them on the mogstation it would definitely be a betrayal, no matter how long its been. They can make something similar, but that exact item should stay exclusive, as it was promised. I, for one, would unsub if the tattoo, legacy chocobo and what not was suddenly on the mogstation because that would soil my relationship with SE. I was here because I wanted to be, I expected nothing, but they gave me something to show their appreciation, and that means something. Taking that away would show us, that we as customers, as players, as fans...mean nothing.

I'm sure they will be added to the mogstation at some point. Exclusive rewards for fanfest, and other merchandise have been made available. Since it's legacy it might take longer.

Exclusive on this game means that it will be re-released for cash eventually :<

[Moonlite]

I'm sure they will be added to the mogstation at some point. Exclusive rewards for fanfest, and other merchandise have been made available. Since it's legacy it might take longer.

Exclusive on this game means that it will be re-released for cash eventually :<

I think you are close. They will tweak legacy stuff just enough to claim legacy players are still special. But the new item will be so close that it will just be semantics. Also why does no one ever ask for the moogle earring that came with the final fantasy collection edition. Which included games at the time that they didn't even make systems for anymore.