Genuine question for those upset with the new Mentor requirements

[MitsukiKimura]

I'm probably one of the few that do enjoy answering questions/helping newer players being a mentor. Though I have come across some toxic mentors in my gaming experience. You don't have to have a crown to help people, I think people just forgot what it really means to be a mentor.

[AkaeiNox]

I'm probably one of the few that do enjoy answering questions/helping newer players being a mentor. Though I have come across some toxic mentors in my gaming experience. You don't have to have a crown to help people, I think people just forgot what it really means to be a mentor.

You don't even need the Novice Network too, even free trial characters can join your own LS. (Up to 128 persons and 64 for each crossworld linkshells)

That's why I think the mentor system is redundant.

[Thamorian]

You don't even need the Novice Network too, even free trial characters can join your own LS. (Up to 128 persons and 64 for each crossworld linkshells)

That's why I think the mentor system is redundant.

Yeah, not wasting a LS or crossworld LS space for a pseudo-Novice Network especially one with less space where people can't drop in and out as needed. Most of the time, linkshells will usually only have maybe a dozen people online out of a full 128 people, that's not very efficient for a pseudo-Novice Network. The way linkshells work is not a viable alternative. The real novice network works just fine. Some servers just need players to step up and get together to help moderate NN better. Our NN does A-OK over here on Gilgamesh.

[EaMett]

Honestly, mentorship complaints in the game are a complete meme at this point. 99% of mentors are perfectly fine, they go about their business every day, usually stay silent because people hate to get unsolicited advice. If you ask them they'll help.

The NN are a general chat but as soon as someone has a question it gets an answer. There's occasional drama and somebody gets kicked.. what you'd expect from any game really. And that's that.

Every hundred mentors you get some ass that thinks the crown is cool and couldn't give two Fs, is a dick to everyone (newbies still learning especially). I honestly play this game more than the average player and the last time I saw a mentor fly off the handle was back when we still had cross class abilities so it makes me chuckle every time someone says the "majority" of mentors are shit.

The commendation bump is a little dumb IMO, I think the crown should be switched to something else instead (maybe just an M or a book), I also think the novice network should be opt in and not opt out.

[Thamorian]

Honestly, mentorship complaints in the game are a complete meme at this point. 99% of mentors are perfectly fine, they go about their business every day, usually stay silent because people hate to get unsolicited advice. If you ask them they'll help.

The NN are a general chat but as soon as someone has a question it gets an answer. There's occasional drama and somebody gets kicked.. what you'd expect from any game really. And that's that.

Every hundred mentors you get some ass that thinks the crown is cool and couldn't give two Fs, is a dick to everyone (newbies still learning especially). I honestly play this game more than the average player and the last time I saw a mentor fly off the handle was back when we still had cross class abilities so it makes me chuckle every time someone says the "majority" of mentors are shit.

The commendation bump is a little dumb IMO, I think the crown should be switched to something else instead (maybe just an M or a book), I also think the novice network should be opt in and not opt out.

Completely agree. People don't remember the 100's of average or good mentors they come across but they'll remember that ONE mentor who was a donkey's rear and all of a sudden all mentors are a donkey's rear in their mind.

I dunno if its relevant to the thread, but I never even wear my mentor crown or participate in the novice network after I noticed it was essentially a chat channel for 'Mentors' to cause drama in, kick people out for superfluous reasons, and not actually help anyone. I got it originally for the sake of helping people, but like the thread starter said, you can still do that without it.

I see your profile says you are on Gilgamesh. Out NN is actually pretty good. Yeha it's used as a general chat but novice questions never go unanswered. We do got a couple people that will cause problems sometimes but thats every server. Don't let a couple ruin what is otherwise a working system. Again goes back to that people never remember the 100's of mentors but they will remember the few bad eggs.

[HappyHealer]

I've been in one group that had a mentor that actually tried to mentor. They did it by belittling our healer and talking down to them.

Very cool.

[Krotoan]

I've been in one group that had a mentor that actually tried to mentor. They did it by belittling our healer and talking down to them.

Very cool.

This.. doesn't sound like trying to mentor. This sounds like being a jerk. ... maybe with a mentor crown on.

[HappyHealer]

This.. doesn't sound like trying to mentor. This sounds like being a jerk. ... maybe with a mentor crown on.

Which is the whole problem people have with the system, at least as it is. It's full of jerks. There is no reason to put a sprout down in Stone Vigil MSQ who is trying to learn how to heal. We got through the dungeon just fine, but one wipe was enough for this guy to go full try hard on an obviously new player. It's annoying to wipe, especially on the low level duties that really aren't that hard and that you've probably run 1,000 times, but if you're a crown then you are saying you're OK with patience and teaching. If not, take the crown off. I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but just giving my opinion to the opinion jar.

[Krotoan]

Which is the whole problem people have with the system, at least as it is. It's full of jerks. There is no reason to put a sprout down in Stone Vigil MSQ who is trying to learn how to heal. We got through the dungeon just fine, but one wipe was enough for this guy to go full try hard on an obviously new player. It's annoying to wipe, especially on the low level duties that really aren't that hard and that you've probably run 1,000 times, but if you're a crown then you are saying you're OK with patience and teaching. If not, take the crown off. I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but just giving my opinion to the opinion jar.

You are.. but yeah. It needs to be repeated that the current Mentor system is polluted and stressful for it's actual intended patrons.