Leveling and 50/60/70/80 Roulettes should be reorganized + Alliance Roulette concerns

[SummonerSenah]

This would just cause the leveling roulette to be abandoned.

The MSQ dungeons are extremely badly designed... that's why they have their own roulette with some some absurdly good rewards... People want a big payout if they're forced to sit through that mess.

I think you misunderstood what I meant. By MSQ dungeons, I mean dungeons you have to do in the course of the MSQ. Like Ala Mhigo, Skalla, Snowcloak, etc. The dungeons that are 50/60/70 but are part of the MSQ.

I wasn't referring to Main Scenario Roulette at all, nor was this topic, which was why I didn't feel the need to clarify.

[SaitoHikari]

Not exactly, but you are correct on parts.

Leveling roulette, combined mob kills and bonus xp, is set to give a specific amount of XP based on Clvl. The higher level the mobs, the more xp per kill, which means less xp from the bonus. The lower level mobs, the lower xp per kill, so the higher the bonus ends up.

For some reason this statement made me realize that normal Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda are in Leveling Roulette. I remember I usually don't like getting those because for some reason, the xp bonus appears to be much smaller compared to getting a proper dungeon. Though that could be attributed to a lack of mobs to kill + their relative fast clear rate.

[TaleraRistain]

Yeah, upon further thought, I've decided to alter the weighting so that it'd consider all dungeons in a 10 level range from the lowest level party member, because potentially getting a single dungeon four days in a row if you're not level 50/60/70 (if that one single roulette is your only method of leveling) isn't what I'd call fun either.

I don't want that either. If the roulette is 50/60/70 then I want an equal chance to get anything in that range. I don't want to be locked to only certain levels because the majority of people running the roulette are X level. They need to make this more random so some of those seldom seen dungeons come up, but it should still be possible for a full group of 80s to get Sastasha. Just not every time.

[SaitoHikari]

I don't want that either. If the roulette is 50/60/70 then I want an equal chance to get anything in that range. I don't want to be locked to only certain levels because the majority of people running the roulette are X level. They need to make this more random so some of those seldom seen dungeons come up, but it should still be possible for a full group of 80s to get Sastasha. Just not every time.

Hmm, I kinda forgot I made this thread.

Maybe there could be an option in the duty finder settings that allows you to turn off level-based matching for dungeon roulettes, if you want the dungeons picked to be truly random. (I should mention that none of the stuff I proposed here should apply to Trials and Alliance, I'd think.)

[Reinfeld]

For some reason this statement made me realize that normal Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda are in Leveling Roulette. I remember I usually don't like getting those because for some reason, the xp bonus appears to be much smaller compared to getting a proper dungeon. Though that could be attributed to a lack of mobs to kill + their relative fast clear rate.

The rewards are balanced pretty well between dungeons and 4-man primals. The exp to time reward ratio for the 4-man primals is pretty damn good if you exlclude que times, but I can see it being a bit of a drag for dps who are shooting for maximum exp value per que.