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  1. #10301
    Player Omymy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Its both entertaining and annoying how this thread constantly comes SO close to fading into Obscurity, but then comes back because people start arguing again.
    Like its barley even about Male Viera anymore
    If you find it annoying, what are you doing here making it more visible?
    (3)

  2. #10302
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    If you find it annoying, what are you doing here making it more visible?
    Because My Body My Choice?
    Plus I also said I find it entertaining.
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  3. #10303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    The musculature, the body, the emotes and the attitude of the average miqote in general. Don't try to manipulate things because the idea I put on the table is quite clear.
    The idea I'm gathering is that if a male is any less muscular than a highlander then they're feminine which is wholly a false statement that has been elaborated few comments above.

    As far as emotes I will concede that they may fall into some anime pitfalls on expression(heck their look is pretty much a neko with the eye lines from big cats thrown in).

    But their body is far from feminine.
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  4. #10304
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Because My Body My Choice?
    Plus I also said I find it entertaining.
    I find people who scream very annoying, but I'm going to scream too because I can.

    Kay.
    (1)

  5. #10305
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    The idea I'm gathering is that if a male is any less muscular than a highlander then they're feminine which is wholly a false statement that has been elaborated few comments above.

    As far as emotes I will concede that they may fall into some anime pitfalls on expression(heck their look is pretty much a neko with the eye lines from big cats thrown in).

    But their body is far from feminine.
    I'm talking about the whole thing, not just the musculature.
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  6. #10306
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    I find people who scream very annoying, but I'm going to scream too because I can.

    Kay.
    ........what does this even have to do with anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    I'm talking about the whole thing, not just the musculature.
    Acting Feminine and being feminine are still different things.

    From the standpoint that multiple people have been addressing, it's purely physical. Guess some of the workout moved some muscle on that one.
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  8. #10308
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    Nynuwe Lunamiel
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    Seriously, I look away for 24 hours and this thread goes downhill again?

    Please, everyone, do not express condescending and self-defeating negativity towards developers. If you believe they do not care about their players, then being here should be a waste of time for you. Think about it. Why would you bother expressing your feelings to someone who supposedly doesn't care to listen to you anymore?

    Yoshi P cares and that is precisely why we feel open to communicating and expressing ourselves in the forums. The majority of mViera and fHrothgar supporters understand this, as well as we know the cause of this predicament. In a nutshell: They only had enough resources allocated to create one full race, and they decided to split it between two races, one half of each race, to appease two camps: Viera fans and those who wanted a more beastly race. Whether it was a good decision or not, that's completely subjective (ie. your own opinion). But if there ever is a fact, it is this: Yoshi cares about us. He cares about this game very much. All aspects of it. And he deserves our gratitude and respect for the hard work he does for us.

    I know we all had our moments where our negative emotions got the best of us, but lets calm down. We can ask the developers for the addition of mViera and fHrothgar in a constructive and positive manner. This also applies to feedback for other areas of the game too.

    Now go be your best and fabulous selves.
    (14)


    Lore purists telling Square Enix they have to keep the original lore intact of content reimagined in later games don't get the point of the FF series. Reimagining stories, places, magic, races, and characters is part of the charm of Final Fantasy.

  9. #10309
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    Bloody hell, you people are still going? I take a break for a few months and come back to over 1000 pages of this. I'm not against male Viera, but I would have expected people to give up on that by now.
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  10. #10310
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    I'm talking about the whole thing, not just the musculature.
    If we go by that logic Male Roedagyns are nothing but over the top flamboyant characters, big hunks of wall meat that have some of the silliest emotes in the game what type of person would find their blow kiss / dote emote appealing, their happy is way over the top, psych/Furious makes them look like they are passing kidney stones. The way SE presents Roe males (lalafels too) has been less than stellar (Leviabeetus anyone) that i was surprised Goesetsu was giving as much humility as he did get especially compared to the other reoccurring Roe ("It's like all my namesdays come at once").

    Yet i do not think every Roe is like that, actually far from it. If someone wants their character to be as feminine as possible they will do so, same with masculine, people will work with what they like to make something they want and trying to shame people for having preferred taste (male Miqo'tes/Midlanders) as being less masculine is horrible for all anyone knows despite them being that race they could never touch the accursed more 'feminine' emotes, wear more masculine attire and present themselves as the most macho guy out there yet they would be classed as feminine to you because they prefer smaller races.

    This whole Masculine/feminine thing is so subjective it is best to just drop it as it just creates pages of pointlessness that derails this thread which it doesn't need help on.

    More on topic note if they haven't decided by now if they will do male Viera/female Hrothgar then they ain't coming in 6.0 which will probably be never in this game's lifespan due to the excessive amount of gear that would have to be adjusted for them and i doubt they would ever get the resources boost needed at this point. Which is just disheartening, understandable but still disheartening.
    (5)
    Guy butt is best butt <3

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