Would the housing market be less crazy if the buying system was a silent auction?

[Mistyregions]

I don't think people wanna pay 100m gil for a small though.

That's the freemarket, it will only support what people are willing to pay, if you are priced out, get an apartment. You are not entitled to a house.

If we want to regulate housing because people might have to pay some gil for it we should regulate the MB as well. I bet that idea wont fly. The only reason people want regulated housing prices because it's a salve serving policy. Like I said apartments exist and if you really wanna house you gotta work for it.

[Hash_Browns]

That's the freemarket, it will only support what people are willing to pay, if you are priced out, get an apartment. You are not entitled to a house.

If we want to regulate housing because people might have to pay some gil for it we should regulate the MB as well. I bet that idea wont fly. The only reason people want regulated housing prices because it's a salve serving policy. Like I said apartments exist and if you really wanna house you gotta work for it.

Ah yes, let's compare locking content behind hundreds of millions of gil to selling items on the market boards.

Inventing a new arbitrary worse system because people are getting handcramps isn't a solution.
Y'all are just trying to give an alcoholic smokes instead of beer.

Also, apartments aren't appealing.
They lack an outdoor area, a garden, and well.. any freedom besides 1 tiny room.

Housing was never suppose to be expensive, or something people sell.

[Mistyregions]

Ah yes, let's compare locking content behind hundreds of millions of gil to selling items on the market boards.

Inventing a new arbitrary worse system because people are getting handcramps isn't a solution.
Y'all are just trying to give an alcoholic smokes instead of beer.

Also, apartments aren't appealing.
They lack an outdoor area, a garden, and well.. any freedom besides 1 tiny room.

Housing was never suppose to be expensive, or something people sell.

Right and living in a studio apartment IRL compared to a IRL mansion is also not appealing. Just like in IRL, if you dont have the money, you cant get it, you have section 8 housing for you instead.

I understand the want an desire for a house, but that doesnt mean its owed to you. I feel the housing market should be a FFA. If you really want the house you'll fish up 999mil gil, if you dont, then you obviously didnt want it.

[monk-dps]

Right and living in a studio apartment IRL compared to a IRL mansion is also not appealing. Just like in IRL, if you dont have the money, you cant get it, you have section 8 housing for you instead.

I understand the want an desire for a house, but that doesnt mean its owed to you. I feel the housing market should be a FFA. If you really want the house you'll fish up 999mil gil, if you dont, then you obviously didnt want it.

OR just maybe, maybe SE could like make housing instant so everyone can get a house and we don't have to worry about the 1% flipping all the plots cause it's not just about not having the gil. Unlike real life XIV has a massive botting problem and the system itself is completely flawed. It's a video game and shouldn't be compared to real life at all.

[Zfz]

doesnt mean its owed to you

I think housing took it too far, though. Everything else in the game can be worked towards as long as you're paying the subscription. Using gear as an example, being unable to get the best gear in the game because one is not good enough a raider, is not the same thing as being unable to get the best gear in the game because the game only allows N% of the server population to own that gear.

I feel housing should have 100% availability.

[Hash_Browns]

Right and living in a studio apartment IRL compared to a IRL mansion is also not appealing. Just like in IRL, if you dont have the money, you cant get it, you have section 8 housing for you instead.

I understand the want an desire for a house, but that doesnt mean its owed to you. I feel the housing market should be a FFA. If you really want the house you'll fish up 999mil gil, if you dont, then you obviously didnt want it.

Never really said housing was owed to me. I own 2, and I'm happy with them.
If you really feel that housing should be a FFA, what's wrong with the current system - where it literally is a free for all?

[Jojoya]

Auctions turn over housing to the handful of super rich players and flippers, locking the majority of players out of the market. Players who want a house but still can't get one (unless they resort to RMT to pay the flippers) will continue to be unhappy.

Lotteries turn housing over to the flippers who have multiple accounts with multiple characters per world, vastly improving their chances of winning. Players who want a house but still can't get one (unless they resort to RMT to pay the flippers) will continue to be unhappy.

Better solution - improve the housing system so all players who want a house or at least a large space to decorate can get it. That means focusing on instanced housing over expanding a ward system. Instanced housing can easily handle variable populations. Wards can't.

Housing will never be an effective gil sink if it's a one time purchase fee. Effective gil sinks are constantly draining gil from the world economies to offset the new gil that's being made and added to them. The only way to turn housing into an effective gil sink is to start charging a monthly gil fee to maintain ownership of a house, and that's something players will strongly object to.

Housing was never suppose to be expensive, or something people sell.

Except it originally was supposed to be something expensive. The wards remained mostly empty as a result.

So SE changed their design intent and lowered the prices. The wards began rapidly filling up. When demand started outstripping supply, the flippers appeared to profit from the chaos.

Plenty of discussion has been going on in the housing subforum on whether or not that was a good thing in the long term. Some players want houses to be exclusive for prestige. Others feel they should be readily available to any player who wants one.

Ultimately, SE has to decide what type of housing system will be in the best interests of the game. All we can do is share our personal opinions about what would make housing a good system.