I just got troll-kicked in Praetorium

[LauraAdalena]

So first, ignore the person saying the system thing I think they read that and thought you said you were AFKing.

Second, this is very much reportble as abuse of the Vote Kick system. Chances are they kicked you to get their friends a fast MSQ.

Party leader was AFK the whole run, who else can start the votekick but the party leader?
If not AFK he was just jumping around with other 4 players, when we had to use the magitek armor they just sit in front of the blasting gate.
So I know who I should be reporting.
Oh, and for what? Harrassment.

Vote Kick can be done by anyone. It just means a majority of them voted to remove you. That's why it's a "vote kick". The only thing party leaders can do are invite new members and (when members are kicked) initiating the search for new ones or not.

However, you also aren't giving your side here. While this is reportable I don't know if this was a wrongful kick because you just said "guys afk. Get to Nero I'm kicked." Were you talking and asking why people were AFK? And more.

[Siete]

So you are able to answer those questions then yes you "can"report them, will anything happen who knows and being as your asking if you can report said players one could only assume you are doing this as some means of revenge or something, and that just opens up another can of worms since you really will not get the satisfaction or validation you are seeking. Also please do not say it is for fairness or whatever, since if that was the case you would have reported them without even asking if you can.

You do you man, rooting for you.

I'm asking because I'm relatively new and I don't want to open a ticket for some invalid reason.
Perhaps you assumed that out of projection?
My only satisfaction is gone because I lost almost one hour out of the three hours of relax I get at home thanks to them, and they're never coming back.
I want fairness.

So first, ignore the person saying the system thing I think they read that and thought you said you were AFKing.

Second, this is very much reportble as abuse of the Vote Kick system. Chances are they kicked you to get their friends a fast MSQ.



Vote Kick can be done by anyone. It just means a majority of them voted to remove you. That's why it's a "vote kick". The only thing party leaders can do are invite new members and (when members are kicked) initiating the search for new ones or not.

However, you also aren't giving your side here. While this is reportable I don't know if this was a wrongful kick because you just said "guys afk. Get to Nero I'm kicked." Were you talking and asking why people were AFK? And more.

I pretty much said nothing else, I've got screenshots. Can I post them here if I censor the names?

[Awha]

I'm asking because I'm relatively new and I don't want to open a ticket for some invalid reason.
Perhaps you assumed that out of projection?
My only satisfaction is gone because I lost almost one hour out of the three hours of relax I get at home thanks to them, and they're never coming back.
I want fairness.




I pretty much said nothing else, I've got screenshots. Can I post them here if I censor the names?

Here is the thing, the community has no way of telling you if a vote is valid, only ones who can determine that are the GM's, and even then you will not know if action was taken against said person so it is sort of up in the air nothing has really changed if you report them or not. As someone else mentioned only a GM is able to answer your question, all we can do is speculate, and with the amount of info you provided we cannot even do that to a great degree. So, you say it is out of fairness, I say you are seeking some form of validation or satisfaction.

Though for in the sake of fairness since you are asking the community how are we expected to provided an answer if it is valid with only one side of the details, and that side being a recollection from the person that was wronged? Does that seem fair?

"・Improper expulsion voting
This means excluding another person by manipulation of expulsion voting"

https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...6&id=5382&la=1

Thanks google!

Rules in this game are wonky, since they only take what happens in the game as evidence, so unless the party said something, and the person who gets reported even gets contacted by the GM is such horrible liar they rat themselves out no action probably will be taken. Silent kicks are a pain prove that they were done as a means of harassment.

[Siete]

Here is the thing, the community has no way of telling you if a vote is valid, only ones who can determine that are the GM's, and even then you will not know if action was taken against said person so it is sort of up in the air nothing has really changed if you report them or not. So, you say it is out of fairness, I say you are seeking some form of validation or satisfaction.

Though for in the sake of fairness since you are asking the community how are we expected to provided an answer if it is valid with only one side of the details, and that side being a recollection from the person that was wronged? Does that seem fair?

The question falls in the hypothetical case what I say can be and IS true and wether under that condition it is a valid reason to report.
I googled it, FFXIV support page says yes. I've the proof, I'll run the report and let SE decide.
If you think losing one hour of my busy life is a form of satisfaction or validation, that's on you.

[Awha]

The question falls in the hypothetical case what I say can be and IS true and wether under that condition it is a valid reason to report.
I googled it, FFXIV support page says yes. I've the proof, I'll run the report and let SE decide.
If you think losing one hour of my busy life is a form of satisfaction or validation, that's on you.

What you say differs from my view of fairness, since I do not think it is fair to ask others to judge a situation without all the information, but hey if that is fairness to you fine it is subjective and can vary from person-to-person so yeah, still going to stand by this is out of some form of satisfaction or validation. I also stand by my other comment, I am rooting for you man.

[Vnolan]

I'm asking because I'm relatively new and I don't want to open a ticket for some invalid reason.

There are no consequences for opening a ticket that might be invalid and the GMs will make any necessary clarifications. Most of the ToS enforcement by SE happens as a result of player reports. The last thing they would want is players thinking they could get in trouble for filing a report. If you feel it's worth your time, file a report and include as much information as possible.

[Kurando]

Second, this is very much reportble as abuse of the Vote Kick system. Chances are they kicked you to get their friends a fast MSQ.

Let's not give them false hope here, like you said later on we don't know both sides of the story. No Vote Kick is abuse until proven otherwise by a GM so any reason is legitimate, OP can report it but for us with no evidence of the encounter, chat logs, etc we can only speculate and even then we can't do anything. Contact the GM is the best route if its something OP truly feels they need to do.

[Siete]

Let's not give them false hope here, like you said later on we don't know both sides of the story. No Vote Kick is abuse until proven otherwise by a GM so any reason is legitimate, OP can report it but for us with no evidence of the encounter, chat logs, etc we can only speculate.

Where can I get the chat logs?

I've the screenshots too.

[Kurando]

Where can I get the chat logs?

I've the screenshots too.

GMs have access to all the chat logs, you don't need to provide these just give them the report details like time/date, duty name, players involved etc and they can pull it up themselves. I don't think they accept screenshots, but the Support Desk menu has a template for all the stuff you need to fill out anyway

[Siete]

GMs have access to all the chat logs, you don't need to provide these just give them the report details like time/date, duty name, players involved etc and they can pull it up themselves. I don't think they accept screenshots, but the Support Desk menu has a template for all the stuff you need to fill out anyway

Thanks, I'll give it a shot!