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  1. #511
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    Dunno, I kinda hope that 5.3 at the latest is removing Zenos from the plot at least. He had his expansion, I want others (Elidibus?) to take the spotlight.

    But somehow, I get the feeling that helping the Scions return from the First might take some more Patches, maybe up to the next expansion...
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Zenos was fairly unconcerned about us being on the First and seemed content to just make preparations for when we do return, so I'm doubting we're going to be seeing much of him for a while outside of cutaway scenes showing what's going on in Garlemald.

    He likely knows we'd probably just end up beating him again if he were challenge us in his current state, which is why he seems determined to find a way to level the playing field. If it's Hydaelyn he ends up targeting as a source of power that could have potentially world-altering repercussions, though it remains to be seen if it's going to happen before/after the next expansion drops. It would give us a very good reason to go to Ilsabard/Garlemald, that's for sure.

    As far as Elidibus goes, I'm not really sure what he intends to accomplish by keeping us busy on First, especially with his mention of using Warriors of Light to do so.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 09-25-2019 at 09:02 PM.

  3. #513
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Dunno, I kinda hope that 5.3 at the latest is removing Zenos from the plot at least.
    God I wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    God I wish.
    It's not unlikely. Both HW and SB's X.0 stingers (i.e., Nidhogg and the WoDs, Yotsuyu's survival) were resolved within their respective patch cycles, so it's likely Elidibus's schemes and Zenos's survival will be dealt with within 5.X.
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  5. #515
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    As long as he's gone before he takes over Zodiark like he implied he wants to do. When we fight Zodiark I want it to actually be Zodiark and not Zenos in Zodiark's body. That would be an enormous disappointment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    As long as he's gone before he takes over Zodiark like he implied he wants to do. When we fight Zodiark I want it to actually be Zodiark and not Zenos in Zodiark's body. That would be an enormous disappointment.
    I have a feeling we will fight Zodiark first then Zenos comes in on the last moment of 6.0 and consumes Zodiark and Hydaelyn both at once to go full Kefka on the world then we have a 2nd Final Trial involving that battle then 6.1 to 6.3 is about dealing with the after math of a new world created when Zodiark and Hydaelyn are now gone thus there is no more Ascian threats nor constant war between gods anymore but Primals still remain.

    6.4 to 6.55 I can see as the Prologue for Season 2 storyline where we are to meet new characters and good bye to old characters as they set out on separate paths now that Zodiark and Ascian threat are no more. Along side the beginning of a new journey that lead to new lands untouched by Garleans and Alliance where new Civilizations, New Friends, Allies, Old Friends may return, and a new Antagonists to this storyline that is NOT related to Zodiark and Ascians.

    On another topic...

    I would be amazed if they some how pull off a Noctis Job for 6.0 through I expect it to be DPS since Noctis was a DPS character by group set up while Gladiolus is the Tank.

    As for Lore of a Noctis Job, i expect (due to being expect set in lvl 70 to start out in 6.0 with that lvl 90 max cap), it may involve WoL awakening his/her Original Soul powers.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 09-26-2019 at 12:38 PM.

  7. #517
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    I'm honestly hoping Zenos just gets played by Elidibus and his whole "Harness the power of Zodiark/Hydaelyn" scheme blows up in his face at a pivotal moment.

    The guy really doesn't deserve to be the "final boss" of the entire story arc with how long Elidibus and Zodiark have been in the picture comparatively and already had his chance back in SB.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 09-26-2019 at 02:54 PM.

  8. #518
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Dunno, I kinda hope that 5.3 at the latest is removing Zenos from the plot at least. He had his expansion, I want others (Elidibus?) to take the spotlight.

    But somehow, I get the feeling that helping the Scions return from the First might take some more Patches, maybe up to the next expansion...
    I also hope that Zenos will be done soon and that his plan of "eating" Hydealyn or Zodiark never happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I have a feeling we will fight Zodiark first then Zenos comes in on the last moment of 6.0 and consumes Zodiark and Hydaelyn both at once to go full Kefka on the world then we have a 2nd Final Trial involving that battle then 6.1 to 6.3 is about dealing with the after math of a new world created when Zodiark and Hydaelyn are now gone thus there is no more Ascian threats nor constant war between gods anymore but Primals still remain.
    Please SE dont do this. First let Kefka be Kefka and not turn another character into someone like him..and how would he even eat Zodiark? For that to happen he would need to be complete (which right now seems to be impossible because of parts being in other shards) and we dont even know if Hydaelyn can be eaten (and he needs to find a way to get there first)

    Also he wanted only one of them and the other "eaten" by us to make a fair fight. Him taking both would also take away the last part of his character, which is fighting against someone who is equally powerful.

    (And how would we ever take someone like that down..)
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    Last edited by Alleo; 09-26-2019 at 06:00 PM.

  9. #519
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    I find the notion of him actually being able to control one of the primals a bit absurd when considering that at best, he's likely only as strong as one of the countless individuals involved in their summoning.

    It would be poetic for his arrogance to end up being what does him in if he decides to push his luck and just gets his soul absorbed like that sahagin did with Leviathan all that time ago.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 09-26-2019 at 07:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm honestly hoping Zenos just gets played by Elidibus and his whole "Harness the power of Zodiark/Hydaelyn" scheme blows up in his face at a pivotal moment.

    The guy really doesn't deserve to be the "final boss" of the entire story arc with how long Elidibus and Zodiark have been in the picture comparatively and already had his chance back in SB.
    I'd be negatively shocked if any attempts by Zenos to "pull another Shinryu on Zodiark" doesn't backfire with him getting completely controlled instead. Because even at half strength and right after reawakening Zodiark should be heaps and bounds on a whole other level than current primals in regards to powerlevel
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