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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Just as you can deal someone five cards, you can deal someone some quantity of damage. It's not ungrammatical. Is there a similar tooltip we can reference for consistency?
    Generally, this is only applicable when the verb is of grammatically identical form to, and replaceable with, the verb "to give" (e.g. "give someone five cards"). Just as historically accusative verbs will not allow for this historically dative construction ("take someone five cards") except as a prepositional phrase ("take someone five hands into debt"), it doesn't work here except through implicit substitution.

    "Deal" (e.g. damage) is generally an monotransitive verb whereas "give", to make any normal sense, is (at least implicitly) ditransitive, and what would typically be called the "indirect object" here is not of the same meaning class as in "to give" (i.e. receiver>beneficiary). Has the stretch been made before? Certainly. But outside of cases where the verb is simply a shade of another that goes fit the grammatical class, "damage dealt target" is not inherently "proper" grammar. Rather, verb-shading is an accepted (though not broadly or prevalently) feature of the language's evolution.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 09-21-2019 at 05:45 PM.