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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Is that an empty beachfront? holy god.
    Those are all or mostly small plots, that is why no one is buying them. Have you been in a small house......throw some items in there, and your camera is staring at the back of your head, and there is nothing to look at. Let alone throw a party.

    I have watch "small" house FC's throw parties on their EMPTY lawns, as well as in other locations. Simply because the house is literally too small.

    Who cars if SE has to actually do work to make every house to be able to upgrade to a large. After all, some of you are saying it is a gil sink system. More people who upgrade, more gil gets removed from the server. Then maybe will no longer see the bots in quarrymill running into and through the ground!

    Or people selling houses for 450 million!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvaneste View Post
    Those are all or mostly small plots, that is why no one is buying them. Have you been in a small house......throw some items in there, and your camera is staring at the back of your head, and there is nothing to look at. Let alone throw a party.

    I have watch "small" house FC's throw parties on their EMPTY lawns, as well as in other locations. Simply because the house is literally too small.

    Who cars if SE has to actually do work to make every house to be able to upgrade to a large. After all, some of you are saying it is a gil sink system. More people who upgrade, more gil gets removed from the server. Then maybe will no longer see the bots in quarrymill running into and through the ground!

    Or people selling houses for 450 million!
    I just checked on spriggan there are a lot of large and medium in Mist.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvaneste View Post
    Those are all or mostly small plots, that is why no one is buying them. Have you been in a small house......throw some items in there, and your camera is staring at the back of your head, and there is nothing to look at. Let alone throw a party.

    I have watch "small" house FC's throw parties on their EMPTY lawns, as well as in other locations. Simply because the house is literally too small.

    Who cars if SE has to actually do work to make every house to be able to upgrade to a large. After all, some of you are saying it is a gil sink system. More people who upgrade, more gil gets removed from the server. Then maybe will no longer see the bots in quarrymill running into and through the ground!

    Or people selling houses for 450 million!
    Purchased houses on Spriggan as of this morning (early am Pacific (US) time) in Mist, Goblet and Lavender Beds. Every housing district has 720 smalls, 252 mediums and 108 large plots for a total of 1,080 per district and 4,320 per world.

    Mist
    Small - 61
    Medium - 54
    Large - 81

    Lavender Bedst
    Small - 38
    Medium - 74
    Large - 52

    Goblet
    Small - 19
    Medium - 16
    Large - 14

    My alt is only 21 so doesn't have access to Shirogane. It tends to be the most popular district so more houses are likely to have been purchased there. Perhaps someone with access could give us the numbers.

    Make of the numbers what you want. Looks to me like not every FC is interested in owning a large, or even a medium in many cases, considering what is still available 3 weeks after the wards opened. It also seems pretty clear that blocking individual purchase of a house so only FCs can own is going to leave massively empty wards. Only 13% of the plots in the housing districts I could access have been sold.

    As for who cares if SE has to do work to change the wards to fit your vision of what they should be? You clearly don't but intelligent players do. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-21-2019 at 07:48 PM.

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    Bigbap Ramirez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Purchased houses on Spriggan as of this morning (early am Pacific (US) time) in Mist, Goblet and Lavender Beds. Every housing district has 720 smalls, 252 mediums and 108 large plots for a total of 1,080 per district and 4,320 per world.

    Mist
    Small - 61
    Medium - 54
    Large - 81

    Lavender Bedst
    Small - 38
    Medium - 74
    Large - 52

    Goblet
    Small - 19
    Medium - 16
    Large - 14

    My alt is only 21 so doesn't have access to Shirogane. It tends to be the most popular district so more houses are likely to have been purchased there. Perhaps someone with access could give us the numbers.

    Make of the numbers what you want. Looks to me like not every FC is interested in owning a large, or even a medium in many cases, considering what is still available 3 weeks after the wards opened. It also seems pretty clear that blocking individual purchase of a house so only FCs can own is going to leave massively empty wards. Only 13% of the plots in the housing districts I could access have been sold.

    As for who cares if SE has to do work to change the wards to fit your vision of what they should be? You clearly don't but intelligent players do. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
    I literally posted the number of FC houses on Spriggan two posts ago...

    Anyway, 710 fc houses as of right now on Spriggan. 763 for Twintania.
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    Nabriales Majestic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Purchased houses on Spriggan as of this morning (early am Pacific (US) time) in Mist, Goblet and Lavender Beds. Every housing district has 720 smalls, 252 mediums and 108 large plots for a total of 1,080 per district and 4,320 per world.

    Mist
    Small - 61
    Medium - 54
    Large - 81

    Lavender Bedst
    Small - 38
    Medium - 74
    Large - 52

    Goblet
    Small - 19
    Medium - 16
    Large - 14

    My alt is only 21 so doesn't have access to Shirogane. It tends to be the most popular district so more houses are likely to have been purchased there. Perhaps someone with access could give us the numbers.

    Make of the numbers what you want. Looks to me like not every FC is interested in owning a large, or even a medium in many cases, considering what is still available 3 weeks after the wards opened. It also seems pretty clear that blocking individual purchase of a house so only FCs can own is going to leave massively empty wards. Only 13% of the plots in the housing districts I could access have been sold.

    As for who cares if SE has to do work to change the wards to fit your vision of what they should be? You clearly don't but intelligent players do. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
    This intelligent person [who does finally own a house, but I digress] thinks SE needs to swap to instanced housing asap.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    This intelligent person [who does finally own a house, but I digress] thinks SE needs to swap to instanced housing asap.
    I agree. Enhancing the existing instanced housing system to give players a greater of variety of options within it, including house plots and not just different apartment sizes, would be far better than continuing to pour resources into a ward system that struggles to fill demand.

    But I also understand it's not a change that SE could make overnight on a whim even if they made that decision. We're not going to see things getting any better soon.

    At this point, I think we're stuck waiting to see how Ishgard housing turns out. For now it looks like it's going to be another ward based housing system but I still remember the information Yoshi-P shared at the EU FanFest about new technology they're working on that would allow players to view non-instanced housing areas from inside an instanced housing area. Hopefully it means that Ishgard housing will be using that technology and what we'll get is instanced housing organized within a ward layout.

    I doubt it - but I'm still going to hope.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    This intelligent person [who does finally own a house, but I digress] thinks SE needs to swap to instanced housing asap.
    I like the housing districts the way they are. I'm not opposed to having instanced housing exist alongside those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvaneste View Post
    Those are all or mostly small plots, that is why no one is buying them. Have you been in a small house......throw some items in there, and your camera is staring at the back of your head, and there is nothing to look at. Let alone throw a party.

    I have watch "small" house FC's throw parties on their EMPTY lawns, as well as in other locations. Simply because the house is literally too small.

    Who cars if SE has to actually do work to make every house to be able to upgrade to a large. After all, some of you are saying it is a gil sink system. More people who upgrade, more gil gets removed from the server. Then maybe will no longer see the bots in quarrymill running into and through the ground!

    Or people selling houses for 450 million!
    That screenshot shows 3 empty mediums, 1 empty large, and 1 empty beachfront small; all are some of the most coveted plots in the game. It's just funny to see. I don't think Spriggan or Twintania should be used as an example of the housing system working since they're still closed to personal purchase, rather they're examples of the fact that FC demand is far overmet with what we have and that it's personal housing people want.
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