Quote Originally Posted by MelnaMilos View Post
I understand resources and devs are not coming from a bottomless well. It sounds like it all relies on getting more money to higher more devs to produce such content. I will reiterate, if -some- effort was spent to bring back some of the hard core players they alienated, like me, and I know entire discords of 1.0 and XI fans, there'd be more money coming to them so that they would expand to produce content for both sides of the opinion. I myself, would be subscribing way more than I have been if the game had some more content for oldschool/hardcore players
This is not the case. FFXIV is one of the most profitable things Squeenix does right now, but the budget for the devs seems to have varied very little. More money incoming has been shown to influence development rates little to none. Before any talk of extra content beyond the current cycle is even considerable, they need to fulfill at least the previous expansions rate and volume of content for it's current users, which they are barely able to do. It is highly unlikely they will splurge on the resources needed to support MORE content before having more income. Just saying that people might come if they make stuff for them means very little to an SE exec.


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. There is a reason MMOs are considered "Trash" and "Dead" these days.
I've not heard this. In fact even WoW is doing well, without counting the classic wow fad. By it's previous standards it may not have the lions share of the pie anymore but WoW is by no means anything but one of Blizzards biggest moneymakers. People who say MMO's are trash or dead are probably just getting older and realizing they don't have the time to spend on that kind of stuff anymore.
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Theres currently a push for classic or old school servers.
Because people have nostalgia stained glasses. I have friends who are playing who swear up and down they're enjoying it.. however when I sit in their Discords it's just constant complaints and the only reason it's fun is their friends are there to suffer with them. It's hilarious to me that Blizzard has managed to squeeze so much more money out of people by releasing old content again and nobody's called them on it. It's the same jazz that happened last time. It isn't changing, it isn't even that much better, they've even made sure to put in the old bugs and issues to make it feel right.. however people are paying to sit and fight over trash mobs in the overworld because hey "was fun the first time right? or why else did I pay so much money for so long". WoW is fun for a certain type of player, I played for 6 years in fact.. you couldn't pay me to go back now, I realized I was only playing for my friends and my smarter friends have moved on.

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Just a few months ago, there was a boom in XI streaming, showing the game and its principals are not dead. Even Square attempted to put more 11 inspired content in the game with Eureka. One of my favorite additions to the game. I was watching a very popular XIV and XI streamer the other day, Mr. Happy, who was talking about adding more dangerous lands and eureka style content to the game.
Great.. NO. Eureka was a disaster. It's dead content now and it was a horrendous grind that embodied everything I hated about FFXI and why I left. The only reason I even tried to play through it was they locked the relic in it and by forum evidence this was usually the only reason a LOT of people did it. Yes there were people who enjoyed it and extolled how it was this grand throwback to XI with "dangerous" lands and rewards for grouping up and how the community in there was so strong. The content was so crazily repetitive and group necessary that people got bored and HAD to talk to each other to amuse themselves. There was nothing else to do between fates. I hear Baldesion Arsenal was great but I never got to it because it now takes HOURS of investment just to grab a couple levels in progression, something I left FFXI for. I don't have time, I don't need progress threatened by some random monster aggroing me while I try to complete an objective or a fate. You can't even really party with friends unless they're within 1-2 levels unless you want to be a glorified babysitter or a giant burden. FFXI is still very much alive and it has players, but I left that game and don't need it smushed into the game I like now at the cost of other content I might actually enjoy. While I can appreciate you liked that content please understand it represents MANY things I left FFXI for.


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Even these casual players are starting to sound like they are getting tired of the same concepts being done over and over. You seem to imply that noone would enjoy such content.
Never said that. I'm sure some would. However SE would do better to cater to it's large playerbase that it already has.


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Again, Not to sound stuck up, but look at the thumbs ups my original post is getting. There IS a market for this stuff. People are willing to throw more money at Square for this. Not just my ideas, but in general.
Sure a few people liked your post, not to sound arrogant but: 10 people does not make a compelling argument. Sure there's a market for it, they play FFXI and other old school grindy MMO's, games like BDO or EVE would be dead without those kinds of players. Again: why should we , the established and mostly content playerbase of FFXIV support the introduction of what is ALREADY PRESENT IN OTHER GAMES while we have so much of what we are provided and enjoy?


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My point was; Lets not disturb what you guys are enjoying, let's find some ways to add more content other people are craving currently to the game. Im not arguing to add the lengthy grind sessions, or the removal of the party finder from XIV. I just want more content where players have to team up and tackle stuff that isn't the same old instance raid boss fight over and over again.I'd like to see a larger world to explore, more party quests and content. Like fates, open world bosses, non-linear dungeons, deep dungeons, etc. I wanna play WITH people, not a mostly solo MMO. Not take out what is in the game already, just give us more options.
And my point is we have established over and over that FFXIV's dev team does not simply add on content. They have a limited pie and making one share bigger makes the other smaller. I will always oppose introducing content I have left other games for.