"New game plus - quests will have no rewards..."

[Connor]

Being able to get still get exp from the quests would be nice. I can get why they wouldn’t have any other rewards for it (Gil / items / etc). That’s not to say that I’d be unhappy if there was no exp rewards, just that I think it’d be a nice bonus

[Kaedan]

No rewards = no rewards. That includes no EXP rewards.

It's purely for replaying the story without making an alt.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I can understand why they wouldn't add physical rewards. people would just farm them for Allagan tin/bronze/silver/gold/platinum pieces. and I imagine the instance fights would probably be synced to the original level maybe.

And those free Fantasias.

[Noitems]

If those quests had rewards, the bots would be freaking out in joy.

[HumanNinjaToo]

I'm glad all 20(+4) of you showed up to support quests with no rewards!

[linay]

I'm glad all 20(+4) of you showed up to support quests with no rewards!

The reward is reliving the story beyond watching cutscenes.

[HyoMinPark]

I'm glad all 20(+4) of you showed up to support quests with no rewards!

The reward is enjoying the story again without having to make an entirely new character. Not everything has to be designed to vomit experience at the players to be useful and worthwhile. Some of us are content with going back and enjoying the MSQ.

I was waiting for a Achievment and a Mount by doing that, if we don't get any rewards at all it's useless for me, if i want to replay the Story i just go to my INN and rewatch all Cutscenes.

Unending Journey doesn’t include all dialogue and cutscenes. There’s no need to give players an achievement and mount for this. It’s designed purely for those who want to re-enjoy the story.

[Nemmar]

Thats oppinion and not fact.You need to learn the difference.Plenty of people enjoy reliving content for story.Hell there are some who have gone back to do praetorium just for that.
Just because some people dont agree doesnt mean thats the opinion of the entire game population.
And like most things in game its optional content.
You dont want to do it if there's no rewards then dont do it.

I could tell you the same. They already had an option for that by rolling a new character though. This is the option of doing the story again on the same character and it's completely pointless. Yeah, some people might do some parts for a refresher. But, it's not about not being for everyone, it's about being for almost no one. What people wanted was to level new jobs while enjoying the story again. Cause that is what people enjoy. That the devs were this blind to it is shocking to me.

How is this feature going to be useless? I was planning the moment it was announced to go back and do things like HW’s story and the DRK job quests (hopefully those are added in sooner rather than later) regardless of if they were going to reward Gil or EXP. So were many of my friends. If players want easy EXP, the game offers tons of options for that already. Not everything needs to give Gil or EXP to be worthwhile. Some players enjoy the story and don’t need carrots dangling from sticks to go back and enjoy it again.

Personally, my hype for 5.1 centers all around New Game Plus. I’ve been dying to do ShB’s story again as a DRK on my main for the “full Warrior of Darkness experience”.



I’m fairly certain that the PLL last night confirmed that New Game Plus won’t offer quest rewards for doing it. I could be misremembering, as it was late, though.



I’ve heard raiders talk about how they’d do the Ultimates even without the title and weapon attached, simply for the experience and the challenge. So, I’d say you’re wrong. There are plenty of people that would do things without shinies attached to them.

Don’t use absolutes in your argument. There are players in this very thread saying that they’re going to make use of the feature—but you’re insisting that “no one” is going to use it. I’m going to use it. I don’t care about EXP and Gil—all of my jobs save GNB are level 70+, and I have more Gil than I need. New Game Plus having no rewards is irrelevant to me.

Maybe some would, but i can guarantee that most wouldn't. The point of mmo's is to progress your character. If you don't understand that i dunno what to tell you. Your view is that much tilted.

To progress... towards what? 80? Someone already done with the story will already be at 80, so that's not it. Better gear? Rewards won't help with that, both since gil rewards are paltry and because gil can only buy you up to 20 item levels below the current gear cap. Level an alt job? Ineffecient. You can get far more exp spamming the relevant dungeon.

That leaves the story.

I don't know about you, but there's two things that keep me subscribed to this game. End-game raid, and the story. At this point my static has everything on farm, so that's only happening once in the week. I already have all the primal mounts, and I'm plucking away at all my alt jobs with my daily roulettes because I don't feel like putting effort into jobs I'll never play.

I'm excited for new game+ because I'll get to re-live the story. The great story that keeps me playing this game. I'm excited to re-live it with the modern version of my current character that I've poured so many hours into.

So personally, I don't mind that there would be no rewards. I don't really see anyone using it normally, because after the first replay, it'll be both ineffecient and boring to see the same thing over and over. But what I DO see is people making bots to spam new game+, along set paths and with set programming, to abuse possible rewards. I think this is an anti-botting measure that doesn't take away anything of actual value from the players.

You character. You progress your character. I cannot believe i have to spell this out.

Tell me though... isn't there something else you should be doing with your in-game time that progresses your character in some other way? Maybe when you play the game that much you got nothing else to achieve that you don't really care if you don't get anything for it. But i want to be able to enjoy the story while progressing my alt jobs and have a different taste at the gameplay. I was purposely waiting for this feature and this is a huge disappointment. I am pretty sure that many feel the same way.
If story was the only thing that mattered then why not just roll new characters? I don't get what the point of this is. Yes, i know you guys say "to enjoy the story again". Well, as i said before you can look up the story on youtube/twitch anytime i want, you can roll an alt character if you want to play it again. This coding, this feature is totally useless like this. I am beyond myself cause i know people asked for this for more than just to replay the story. Honestly the biggest waste of resources i have ever seen in an mmo feature. The things that could've been done instead of this. Appalling decision from a dev team.

[PyurBlue]

The point of mmo's is to progress your character.

I disagree, and I think less of a focus on progression would improve the genre in many ways. Regardless, not everything has to be about progression or rewards. I've always found it odd that FF14 didn't have a story replay option all along given how large a portion of the game it is. For those interested in the story, NG+ has inherent value. It's also good for people who don't want to have to choose between story and catching up with friends. Once the replay feature is added you will be able to go through the game as fast as you want and catch up on the story later. I wouldn't want to see any rewards attached to NG+, it would mean being forced to slog through the story, again, just for exclusive items. I personally think good game design involve making interesting content, not motivating people with carrots.

[HyoMinPark]

I could tell you the same. They already had an option for that by rolling a new character though. This is the option of doing the story again on the same character and it's completely pointless. Yeah, some people might do some parts for a refresher. But, it's not about not being for everyone, it's about being for almost no one. What people wanted was to level new jobs while enjoying the story again. Cause that is what people enjoy. That the devs were this blind to it is shocking to me.

It’s not pointless to those who want to redo the story on their main character. Each character can have a different experience when it comes to the MSQ. I explained in another post about how my alts handle response different compared to my main; the MSQ experience is different for each character I own because I’ve designed them purposely to be different. There is a certain novelty to being able to redo the story on my main that can’t be reproduced by just rerolling a new character. And, considering how alt-unfriendly this game is, a lot of players don’t want to have to roll an alt just to enjoy the story again, anyways.

It’s a pointless feature for YOU just because it isn’t going to vomit experience and Gil at YOU. You should clarify that your argument really only applies to you here, because you have others in this thread proving to you that it isn’t so pointless after all to them.

Maybe some would, but i can guarantee that most wouldn't. The point of mmo's is to progress your character. If you don't understand that i dunno what to tell you. Your view is that much tilted.

There are myriads of ways to “progress your character” in the game already. Not everything has to be designed to throw Gil and experience at people, and people have been asking for this kind of feature for years—without the caveat of “make it give me EXP and money”.. Adding experience and rewards to this just makes it a prime target for bots—both RMT and those who want to do scripted leveling.

I do find it ironic that you’re calling my opinion tilted. I could say the same about yours.