The new loot system for Savage is not good.

[MPK]

Double the amount of books we can get per week. That way not only hve people incentive to run it more than once, but you have something in sight at least. I mean, 4 weeks for an accessory? Are you kidding me? ^^

Then people stay subbed for half as long.

[RoyalBeef]

Then people stay subbed for half as long.

Right, I forgot about that aspect .__.

[Nora_of_Mira]

Then people stay subbed for half as long.

while in general this is true, we're talking about savage raiders, which is what...<10% of players subbed? I know raiders that only sub for raiding and unsub when they get their gear, but that sub $$$ has to pale in comparison to all of the casual subs.

[MPK]

while in general this is true, we're talking about savage raiders, which is what...<10% of players subbed? I know raiders that only sub for raiding and unsub when they get their gear, but that sub $$$ has to pale in comparison to all of the casual subs.

Then <10% of people would stay subbed half as long.

[ForteNightshade]

The problem isn't the system. The problem is the people.
On JP if you need a gear for your main, you use Need, if it is for another job then you use greed. Not interest then pass.
Got a globes and a head piece whit a roll lower than 30 this way.

And this is exactly why I want to force this system onto NA/EU. The only way to do that is my prior suggestion because lets face it. No one is going to trust people to do that in PF this side of the ocean.

[Sunako]

Easiest fix would be, remove all loot from the raid and only keep datalog. One datalog for one gear piece. Then you could not blame rng.

[Bonbori]

Saying that it's "not good" as if "good for statics" didn't count at all is a bit unfair.

The old system was terrible for statics (no way to guarantee BiS/role priority) AND terrible for pugs (no way to guarantee that anyone would get anything useful for their main). This one at least covers one of the bases and gives statics a measure of control over their progression.

[ForteNightshade]

Easiest fix would be, remove all loot from the raid and only keep datalog. One datalog for one gear piece. Then you could not blame rng.

This would allow you to gear insanely fast; like everyone has their weapons week 1-2.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

7 weeks in my static is done with e1s drops for mains. I'd say thats not bad at all.

[Lunavi]

Easiest fix would be, remove all loot from the raid and only keep datalog. One datalog for one gear piece. Then you could not blame rng.

I agree with this so much. Would maybe make me consider doing end game raids, currently though when I know that there is a huge chance that those 3-4 hours minimum it is going to take PUGing something are going to result in nothing... I rather spend my time doing something where I get fruit for my labor.