Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Heliantheae]

How do y'all feel about Nascent Flash? I've been playing WAR lately and I love it. Reminds me of when they had B4B. And it out heals Clemency during big pulls. When I was healing I saw WARs put that on me and had no idea what it did, but did notice I didn't have to heal them as much and they got my com. I'm also a weirdo who lives PLD who Clemency, as long as it doesn't interrupt Excog. But most who know how to Clemency know what Excog is and let it pop before they use it.

[Makeda]

I really don’t get this Clemency hate...

When I go on a healer I like getting a tank I only need to hyper focus on during tank buster mechanics.

When I go on a tank I prefer seeing a healer that is doing more than spam a heal... and yes I do sometimes “pull everything and then spam my aOe rotation”... and then... cycle in my self heals and buff as needed, based not just on my current health but also on what the damage intake is likely to be or whether or not a tank buster is going to hit before they come off cooldown again...

As for Clemency... as a Gunbreaker I have a self heal that is just built into the second step of my single target rotation, and a HoT heal that is instant.

Should I no longer use my single target rotation so that the heal meter in ACT only shows these jealous healers? If this isn’t some kind of meter-rage... then what?

I mean... what exactly is the problem here?

[Mesarthim]

Only time I have a problem with Clemency is when a Paladin is doing it so much it turns my oGCD heals (such as earthly star in stormblood) into a 100% overheal. I think about the situation. If their hp is bouncing all over the place that's one thing but when their damage intake is so low and their hp is near max I'm like "Why".

At that point all they're doing is lowering their own damage while I was already dealing the same amount. Any healing ability used too much is a bad thing, Paladins aren't an exception.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I think the issue is that they're healing themselves instead of focusing on their rotation, which some people take as a slight against their healing abilities. Or that they could be doing damage with that MP instead.

[Endeleon]

I really don’t get this Clemency hate...

When I go on a healer I like getting a tank I only need to hyper focus on during tank buster mechanics.

When I go on a tank I prefer seeing a healer that is doing more than spam a heal... and yes I do sometimes “pull everything and then spam my aOe rotation”... and then... cycle in my self heals and buff as needed, based not just on my current health but also on what the damage intake is likely to be or whether or not a tank buster is going to hit before they come off cooldown again...

As for Clemency... as a Gunbreaker I have a self heal that is just built into the second step of my single target rotation, and a HoT heal that is instant.

Should I no longer use my single target rotation so that the heal meter in ACT only shows these jealous healers? If this isn’t some kind of meter-rage... then what?

I mean... what exactly is the problem here?

Holy ellipses batman.

[Callinon]

Ask any healer main and i'm sure many will tell you it feels like a slight when a pld uses Clemency at 75 or higher health. I have had plds use it at 90% health with everything in the pull going fine. It makes many a healer main feel as though the pld doesn't trust them at all and that they just want to be babbied because oh no they barely got hit by something.

I'm not a healer main in this game, though I have been in other games... I'm not offended by a tank using their toolkit to survive. Do some of them pull that tool out a little early? Sure, that's inarguable. But I wouldn't take that as a slight against me, just them being overly cautious.

EDIT: Actually let me put that a different way: Do you feel the same way about Aurora?

[Mhaeric]

As for Clemency... as a Gunbreaker I have a self heal that is just built into the second step of my single target rotation, and a HoT heal that is instant.

Should I no longer use my single target rotation so that the heal meter in ACT only shows these jealous healers? If this isn’t some kind of meter-rage... then what?

I mean... what exactly is the problem here?

The difference is Clemency is a GCD heal and completely outside of any rotation, so it's unequivocally a loss for the Paladin to use it when the healer's regen tick or oGCD would have been enough to cover it without any dps loss for the party at all.

Also, someone earlier brought up Nascent Flash/Glint in a similar light. In this case, that skill is primarily a damage mitigation tool like Intervention, the heal is just the additional effect that is baked into it, and the warrior doesn't lose anything by using it since it's an oGCD. They might as well use it.

If a tank wants to use Clemency if they're not anywhere close to dying I'm fine with it, but I do roll my eyes at my computer screen since they're just reducing their effectiveness for no gain.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Should I no longer use my single target rotation so that the heal meter in ACT only shows these jealous healers?

I wouldn't use the single target rotation in mob groups. The heal isn't worth the DPS-loss.

[MikuMitsuko]

Oof.
Spam your heals if you want, but I'll just be left wondering why I am even playing a healer when some PLDs clearly don't seem to think they need one. Tank does more dps than my healer. Stopping your rotation to do what I'm specifically queue'd up to do and lowering your dps makes no sense to me. If you're dying by all means use Clemency but you're not dying when you're at 70% lmao
And the ones thinking they're making my job easier? Honestly, my job is already braindead ez. Nothing about healing in this game is difficult, except maybe staying awake while playing a healer (or when your tank doesn't use DCDs in wall pulls...).

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Only time I have a problem with Clemency is when a Paladin is doing it so much it turns my oGCD heals (such as earthly star in stormblood) into a 100% overheal. I think about the situation. If their hp is bouncing all over the place that's one thing but when their damage intake is so low and their hp is near max I'm like "Why".

At that point all they're doing is lowering their own damage while I was already dealing the same amount. Any healing ability used too much is a bad thing, Paladins aren't an exception.

I can agree with this.