The state of healers is affecting everyone

[Jybril]

I don't buy the line that any significant number of healers quit. Healers are going to be in greater demand because the tank pool got a lot bigger and the DPS pool was always big.

Sometimes I still find myself waiting on tanks. Does that mean a bunch of tanks quit too? Nah.

It's going to be bigger now, because
1. They got a new tank to play with.
2. Heals didn't get a new heal to play with.
3. Healers are all homogenized and are boring so they quit or switched.

AST changes are definitely a big one, but it certainly doesn't help that all healers have been reduced to "spam 1 button over and over and over again until everything is dead, except sometimes you stop to heal for a second" Not very engaging to be be playing a modern game with all of the buttons you need mapped could be done on a NES controller.

I agree with the AST one.
I didn't usually care about all the DPS removal SCH for example but now it's so dangum boring
during downtime to all I am doing is pressing 111111111111111 OH YAY 2! Thank God! I can press 2!......11111111111111........
At least with WHM, I am floating and look kinda cool pressing 1 lol.

[Dogempire]

It's going to be bigger now, because
1. They got a new tank to play with.
2. Heals didn't get a new heal to play with.
3. Healers are all homogenized and are boring so they quit or switched.

I didn't usually care about all the DPS removal SCH for example but now it's so dangum boring
during downtime to all I am doing is pressing 111111111111111 OH YAY 2! Thank God! I can press 2!......11111111111111........
At least with WHM, I am floating and look kinda cool pressing 1 lol.

B-but who needs something cool like bane that spreads your dot skills to all mobs and lets you damage as you heal when you can just slap the ground until your mp runs out?

[Rowde]

I'm doing A trial not far after Ultima Weapon. Makes sense I guess most would be doing expansion things but still. An hour of having all slots filled except the 2 healers seems off. Even duty roulette should have found us 2 by now.

You gotta be more specific than that.

Keep in mind that Trial Roulette only funnels ppl into HARD MODE 8 man Trials (after ARR the MSQ trials are Hard Mode by Default).

Extreme Trials get filled in by other players either direct queueing for them OR by players that are queueing for Mentor Roulette (on your Data Center).


If you are direct queueing for an Extreme Trial, then yah wait times can be absolutely abysmal. For a Hard Mode trial it would be extremely odd for a queue to ever get that high, particularly for lower level content.

[Machi_Machiavelli]

I like the healers currently. I usually avoid queuing as a healer because the single pack pulling is what bores me. Usually queue with LS mates in and out 15 mins.

[CrimsonGunner]

some things that might will explain why there aren't much healers:

1.support was never that much of a popular role,not many like to just spam heal's and buffs or like being the punching bag for people when they failed and die and follow the rule of "its the healer's fault".

2. dps was always more appealing to people and i think tanking was second.

3. sever problems with WHM, while scholar and ast problems were at least heard in previous expansions,the white mage never really got their job issues fixed which probably reduced their community (from what i read here)

and now after this expansion,all healer's aren't unique,they lost their identity and their kits are almost the same which caused a major uproar among the remaining healers that lost what they loved in their class while some issues still weren't fixed.

so you can't really expect to have a lot of healers if most left their jobs to play something else because of all that happen and now that all the healer's jobs are identical with boring game play it will only make matters worse and wont attract other's to be one.
so if this keeps up ,my guess is soon u will either have to fill a healer role out of necessity for your friend or be forced to find a willing soul to be healer so you can do trials as your dps/tank job.
i will still remain a main healer but again the healer community was already low and with all of that i wonder how many still remain.

p.s- if u want more details,there is a thread called "has anyone quit healing" in the healer forums that might shed some light and explain more accurately and in detail

[Iscah]

The simple answer why there might be less healers around is that people are leveling other things. I already got all my healers to Lv80 (so I can stop carrying healer leveling gear) and now there's no reason for me to queue into trial roulette as healer when I need to put that EXP into other classes.

[CrimsonGunner]

The simple answer why there might be less healers around is that people are leveling other things. I already got all my healers to Lv80 (so I can stop carrying healer leveling gear) and now there's no reason for me to queue into trial roulette as healer when I need to put that EXP into other classes.

it a partial answer,not a full and simple one cause not all will bother to level healer job and probably will stick to dps/tank even after max level .

[Keddera_StormMoon]

Eh, I got all my healers to 80. I only do Expert roulettes my healers these days.

At heart, I just like leveling classes. If I had another healer class to level, I'd be leveling that instead. (HINT HINT)

[Lunavi]

I'm doing A trial not far after Ultima Weapon. Makes sense I guess most would be doing expansion things but still. An hour of having all slots filled except the 2 healers seems off. Even duty roulette should have found us 2 by now.

Is the duty by any means an EX duty? If so, those fill up very slowly as no one queues for them and all people you will get into them are mentors who do the mentor roulette and (sadly, as some of them are very fun) my warmest recommendation is to do those in unsynched parties.

[Rosa_Frandlia]

It's because healer dps skills have basically been reduced to one dot and one button, you know it's good game design when the rotation leaves you super bored but you have to remind yourself to pay attention or people will die, kind of like a middle schooler in math class the day before a test.

Though I will concede that WHM was one dot one button before SBr I think, but I don't know about AST since I've never played it, scholar though, well, rip my former main class.

Wrong! WHM had 2 in SB, 3 in HW. Why do so many Sch's think WHM only had one in SB and not realize Aero III was taken away? AST was the 1 DoT SB healer, 2 DoT HW healer. WHM got the same gutting SCH got and then some in SB, which is why only Aero 3 was all that could be removed (unless you count possibly the most useless trait in the game going away too).

Part of the problem also is most healer mains like me have already leveled all 3 healers, meaning Trial roulette is no longer needed for leveling our healers and using it for our other jobs. Maybe adding a healer along with a tank would have stopped that problem.